24-12-2021, 00:49
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Re: Coronavirus
Far more detailed statistics are needed in the public realm such as difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated as I've heard many talk as though all new infections are unvaccinated people which is not the case at all. Even the death figures are just clumped together for the public with "covid related death" being very common not distinguishing between covid direct deaths and deaths of those from the vaccine.
None of this changes the fact that the mortality rate of covid is very small and doesn't warrant the response it's so far had.
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24-12-2021, 00:53
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
And, yet it is. Funny that.
I’ll play a game with you Hugh, from the following what would rather have?
1. Lung cancer, Bowel cancer, (other cancers)
2. Motor Neurone Disease
3. Parkinson’s Disease
4. Dementia
5. COVID
6. Death from old age having escaped the previous 5.
I’d take 6, and 5 would be a very close second. Before you trot out the « you can’t catch cancer » trope. At least 30% of people in the country will get cancer and the survival rate isn’t 98.5%. Dementia is fast becoming even worse.
So focus on the things, and fixing the things, that will really kill you. Also possibly don’t ride motorbikes either. I got rid of mine 8yrs ago and my life chances improved greatly.
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Good point, Pierre. And this just demonstrates why so many people are questioning why we are all being pressured into panic mode.
‘Living to live with Covid’ does not mean more lockdowns. It means learning to live with the reality of life.
Snowflakes need to recognise that they have to melt eventually.
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24-12-2021, 09:48
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Coronavirus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre
And, yet it is. Funny that.
I’ll play a game with you Hugh, from the following what would rather have?
1. Lung cancer, Bowel cancer, (other cancers)
2. Motor Neurone Disease
3. Parkinson’s Disease
4. Dementia
5. COVID
6. Death from old age having escaped the previous 5.
I’d take 6, and 5 would be a very close second. Before you trot out the « you can’t catch cancer » trope. At least 30% of people in the country will get cancer and the survival rate isn’t 98.5%. Dementia is fast becoming even worse.
So focus on the things, and fixing the things, that will really kill you. Also possibly don’t ride motorbikes either. I got rid of mine 8yrs ago and my life chances improved greatly.
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Just repeating the statement that the biggest cause of death in the U.K. this year is "mild" doesn’t make it true…
In response to your "game", we don’t get much of a choice about 1, 2, 3, 4, & 6 - we can have a choice about 5, and our actions on that choice impact others.
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Good point, Pierre. And this just demonstrates why so many people are questioning why we are all being pressured into panic mode.
‘Living to live with Covid’ does not mean more lockdowns. It means learning to live with the reality of life.
Snowflakes need to recognise that they have to melt eventually.
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People can disagree on approaches to COVID and it’s impact without making derogatory comments - you should try it…
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24-12-2021, 09:53
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#1024
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Sulking in the Corner
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Good point, Pierre. And this just demonstrates why so many people are questioning why we are all being pressured into panic mode.
‘Living to live with Covid’ does not mean more lockdowns. It means learning to live with the reality of life.
Snowflakes need to recognise that they have to melt eventually.
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Good point, OB.
Hope that helps.
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24-12-2021, 10:42
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Good point, OB.
Hope that helps.
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Let's hope no one googles pages of snowflake statistics
Millions set for early FOURTH jab after it emerges booster effect starts wearing off after just 10 weeks:
by heck this jab business is getting a bit silly.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ions-rise.html
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24-12-2021, 10:46
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Re: Coronavirus
Covid booster jabs and vaccinations will be not be available in Wales on Christmas Day or 26 December, the Welsh government has confirmed.
When I think of all the other people that work through xmas, I wonder why they opted for this?
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24-12-2021, 10:48
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#1027
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Re: Coronavirus
Wales stats
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24-12-2021, 10:53
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Sulking in the Corner
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Let's hope no one googles pages of snowflake statistics
Millions set for early FOURTH jab after it emerges booster effect starts wearing off after just 10 weeks:
by heck this jab business is getting a bit silly.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ions-rise.html
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There are one or two experts on here that are at liberty to correct me.
But, OB has been right all along in that if you cocoon people in their homes or otherwise reduce their natural exposure to germs, then the immune system has had nothing to attack and so immunity wanes. Simples or what?
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24-12-2021, 10:54
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Re: Coronavirus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf
Covid booster jabs and vaccinations will be not be available in Wales on Christmas Day or 26 December, the Welsh government has confirmed.
When I think of all the other people that work through xmas, I wonder why they opted for this?
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Probably because few patients would turn up on Christmas Day. Don't know why re 26th though.
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24-12-2021, 11:12
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Coronavirus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf
Covid booster jabs and vaccinations will be not be available in Wales on Christmas Day or 26 December, the Welsh government has confirmed.
When I think of all the other people that work through xmas, I wonder why they opted for this?
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Maybe it shows that the panic is not worth panicking about
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24-12-2021, 11:29
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#1031
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Re: Coronavirus
Will Santa have to do an LFT this evening before he goes out delivering?
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24-12-2021, 11:35
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Oh When The Saints!!
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Carth
Will Santa have to do an LFT this evening before he goes out delivering?
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I certainly hope so.
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24-12-2021, 12:44
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Re: Coronavirus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre
And, yet it is. Funny that.
I’ll play a game with you Hugh, from the following what would rather have?
1. Lung cancer, Bowel cancer, (other cancers)
2. Motor Neurone Disease
3. Parkinson’s Disease
4. Dementia
5. COVID
6. Death from old age having escaped the previous 5.
I’d take 6, and 5 would be a very close second. Before you trot out the « you can’t catch cancer » trope. At least 30% of people in the country will get cancer and the survival rate isn’t 98.5%. Dementia is fast becoming even worse.
So focus on the things, and fixing the things, that will really kill you. Also possibly don’t ride motorbikes either. I got rid of mine 8yrs ago and my life chances improved greatly.
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None of the others are infectious. They can't be prevented by people self-isolating etc. If cancer was as transmittable and infectious as Omicron, then people would be a lot more cautious in their behaviour. Where a substance is found to be carcinogenic, then it tends to be removed from regular contact with people. The emphasis is that wherever possible, the number of cases of those other things is reduced. Eg Passive smoking.
If large number of people who are admitted to hospital for reasons other than covid, are infected with it, that is still a bad sign. Not only is it a sign of large numbers of people being infected by coming into contact with large numbers of people who were infectious, they also pose a risk to others in the hospital..
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24-12-2021, 13:23
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#1034
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Re: Coronavirus
Pierre’s comments regarding hospitalisations don’t really hold any merit or purpose as we were just at the beginning of this wave/surge..
Last data for hospitalisations is 19th December according to the government website at which they were just over 1000 a day, however cases from 14 days prior to that we’re at approximately 50,000 a day.
Whilst the data we are getting is promising, we’re not out of the woods yet. The next 3-4 weeks are critical as to which way we progress.
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
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24-12-2021, 13:54
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#1035
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cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Re: Coronavirus
Does anyone have the figures for 'Flu' this year?
No, I can't be bothered to go looking myself
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