U.S Election 2020

[jfman]

Twitter have permanently suspended Donald Trump from their platform.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by jfman

Twitter have permanently suspended Donald Trump from their platform.

great news


As riot raged at Capitol, Trump tried to call senators to overturn election

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/p...iot/index.html

Originally Posted by jfman

Twitter have permanently suspended Donald Trump from their platform.

Winner of tonight’s best Tweet award...



*John Barron

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Dave42

great news


As riot raged at Capitol, Trump tried to call senators to overturn election

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/p...iot/index.html

I'm torn on the decision to remove him from Twitter. As a general rule I support free speech - you don't have to look particularly far across the internet to see people make fools of themselves propagating conspiracy theories. That said, naively perhaps, I've always believed that common sense would prevail.

When people are acting out insurrection in the United States simply because their candidate lost an election it's clear that these people have been radicalised. They are no different from Shamima Begum and her ilk going out to fight for Isis - they've gone down the rabbit hole of radicalisation that they are detached from obvious, observable reality. The most extreme Trump supporters will not believe the word of the independent judiciary. Karl Rove - Republican strategist - told Fox News that while 'hanky panky' inevitably happens in any election the idea that someone could steal a US election was ridiculous. The Supreme Court of the United States - with 6 Justices appointed by Republicans - had no interest in hearing the case.

Only a Trump concession, which would never ever happen, would placate them.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Winner of tonight’s best Tweet award...

Originally Posted by jfman

I'm torn on the decision to remove him from Twitter. As a general rule I support free speech - you don't have to look particularly far across the internet to see people make fools of themselves propagating conspiracy theories. That said, naively perhaps, I've always believed that common sense would prevail.

When people are acting out insurrection in the United States simply because their candidate lost an election it's clear that these people have been radicalised. They are no different from Shamima Begum and her ilk going out to fight for Isis - they've gone down the rabbit hole of radicalisation that they are detached from obvious, observable reality. The most extreme Trump supporters will not believe the word of the independent judiciary. Karl Rove - Republican strategist - told Fox News that while 'hanky panky' inevitably happens in any election the idea that someone could steal a US election was ridiculous. The Supreme Court of the United States - with 6 Justices appointed by Republicans - had no interest in hearing the case.

Only a Trump concession, which would never ever happen, would placate them.

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Why they removed him.

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topic...uspension.html

Assessment
We assessed the two Tweets referenced above under our Glorification of Violence policy, which aims to prevent the glorification of violence that could inspire others to replicate violent acts and determined that they were highly likely to encourage and inspire people to replicate the criminal acts that took place at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021

This determination is based on a number of factors, including:
President Trump’s statement that he will not be attending the Inauguration is being received by a number of his supporters as further confirmation that the election was not legitimate and is seen as him disavowing his previous claim made via two Tweets (1, 2) by his Deputy Chief of Staff, Dan Scavino, that there would be an “orderly transition” on January 20th.

The second Tweet may also serve as encouragement to those potentially considering violent acts that the Inauguration would be a “safe” target, as he will not be attending.

The use of the words “American Patriots” to describe some of his supporters is also being interpreted as support for those committing violent acts at the US Capitol.

The mention of his supporters having a “GIANT VOICE long into the future” and that “They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” is being interpreted as further indication that President Trump does not plan to facilitate an “orderly transition” and instead that he plans to continue to support, empower, and shield those who believe he won the election.

Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021.

As such, our determination is that the two Tweets above are likely to inspire others to replicate the violent acts that took place on January 6, 2021, and that there are multiple indicators that they are being received and understood as encouragement to do so.

Jack Dorsey = Fascist.

[jfman]

Read an entertaining tweet that the joke in South America is that the coup failed because there wasn't a US Embassy in Washington D.C. providing logistical support.

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Originally Posted by Mick

Jack Dorsey = Fascist.

Ah come on Mick, surely you must empathise with having the power to silence those who disagree with you.

Originally Posted by jfman

Read an entertaining tweet that the joke in South America is that the coup failed because there wasn't a US Embassy in Washington D.C. providing logistical support.

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Ah come on Mick, surely you must empathise with having the power to silence those who disagree with you.

I’ve never banned anyone for disagreeing with me, at any time.

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Funnily enough. They banned his personal account but not the official potus handle. He’s also put out a message via press pool. They cannot silence him by simply banning him. Stupid fools.

[jfman]

I don't think they are trying to silence him, simply curtail him.

Could he call for insurrection via @potus - probably not if it's run by Civil Servant type characters. I doubt he could call into question the results of a Federal Election on a US Government account without some process to call into question whether that's worthy of Government publications or it's the whim of a madman.

Funnily enough @NicolaSturgeon often gets critisism for not using @ScotGovFM for messaging from time to time, although the latter will retweet the personal account.

EDIT: Oh dear Twitter are now deleting @potus tweets, so they saw that ruse coming.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

Twitter have permanently suspended Donald Trump from their platform.

And not before time, too..

The fallout from this has been extraordinary. People are focusing on Trump but elsewhere we've had newly elected Congressmen/women being spotted at the march and at least one has been arrested by the FBI. The others - assuming there isn't an arrest for them coming - might be facing removal.

Two senators are getting condemnation from their local state parties and newspapers which backed them.

A police officer has been murdered which in DC carries a life sentence so at least one of the mod will be in serious trouble when the FBI catch up with them.

The FBI is also investigating if there was a plot to do more such as kill or take hostage Senators. There seems to have been people who turned up with ties and armed gear and posts on the now removed Trump subreddit discussing such things. The FBI no doubt will be going thought Reddit and other social media to see who else was conspiring.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

The fallout from this has been extraordinary. People are focusing on Trump but elsewhere we've had newly elected Congressmen/women being spotted at the march and at least one has been arrested by the FBI. The others - assuming there isn't an arrest for them coming - might be facing removal.

Two senators are getting condemnation from their local state parties and newspapers which backed them.

A police officer has been murdered which in DC carries a life sentence so at least one of the mod will be in serious trouble when the FBI catch up with them.

The FBI is also investigating if there was a plot to do more such as kill or take hostage Senators. There seems to have been people who turned up with ties and armed gear and posts on the now removed Trump subreddit discussing such things. The FBI no doubt will be going thought Reddit and other social media to see who else was conspiring.

This is all very exciting but I feel we aren't talking enough about the guy who died after tasering himself in the balls

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1784668.html

Lindsey Graham did a quick 180 on Trump after he became the President and was one of his loyalist allies. He breaks with him a bit and now he is a Traitor, learning the same lesson Mike Pence did that it doesn't matter how loyal you are they will turn on you.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Jack Dorsey = Fascist.

Can you expand a bit on your reasons please, Mick? Are you saying that social media owners should not be able to ban people?

Originally Posted by Damien

The fallout from this has been extraordinary. People are focusing on Trump but elsewhere we've had newly elected Congressmen/women being spotted at the march and at least one has been arrested by the FBI. The others - assuming there isn't an arrest for them coming - might be facing removal.

Two senators are getting condemnation from their local state parties and newspapers which backed them.

A police officer has been murdered which in DC carries a life sentence so at least one of the mod will be in serious trouble when the FBI catch up with them.

The FBI is also investigating if there was a plot to do more such as kill or take hostage Senators. There seems to have been people who turned up with ties and armed gear and posts on the now removed Trump subreddit discussing such things. The FBI no doubt will be going thought Reddit and other social media to see who else was conspiring.

Filming people inside Capitol House and posting it on social media was a bit daft as it provides evidence against fellow protestors/rioters/insurrectionists.

According to Trump himself, damage to such a property now carries a ten-year sentence. "I have authorized the Federal Government to arrest anyone who vandalizes or destroys any monument, statue or other such Federal property in the US with up to 10 years in prison, per the Veteran’s Memorial Preservation Act, or such other laws that may be pertinent.", the president wrote on Twitter.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9580916.html

Granted Twitter and Facebook are private companies, but Trump hated him or not is until 20th Jan the Democratically elected President of the United States. They have cut him off his preferred communication channels, in a fascists, overreach way.

Even folks from the other side are questioning the power these Big Techs have:

Jo Maugham:

Has anyone worked out if it's a good thing that private capital gets to decide whether a democratically elected politician can speak directly to the people?

Anyone celebrating this mass censorship of a political leader just because you hate the man, remember, the pendulum can swing both ways.