Coronavirus

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Just come up on the BBC as well

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54954698

The FTSE100 will be up tomorrow.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Just come up on the BBC as well

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54954698

Should be interesting.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Just come up on the BBC as well

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54954698

From that link

On Thursday, Mr Anderson posted a photo of himself with Mr Johnson at No 10 alongside the words: "Breakfast with the PM."

You would have thought that this meeting could have been done remotely or the could have eaten beforehand to minimise the time spent together. Isn't the government's current advice to work from home wherever possible?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Should be interesting.

At his key adviser will still be physically present.

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Can't see much changing in Hull after 2nd December.

Hull NHS boss calls for tighter lockdown and school closures

Chris Long said transmission rates are increasing because lots of people "are just going about their normal lives".

The UK's COVID-19 hotspot should have a tighter lockdown and school closures to reduce spiralling cases, Hull's NHS boss has said.

Hull in East Yorkshire became England's worst affected area this week as infection rates soared to well above 700 per 100,000 people.

This weekend, around 180 people are being treated at the Hull Royal Infirmary for COVID-19, with numbers expected to increase significantly in the next two weeks.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...sures-12133363

A second RNA vaccine (same approach as Pfizer) has reported initial trials results and claims 94.5% effectiveness.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

This one is produced by Moderna in the USA. U.K. gov hasn’t preordered any of this one but is in negotiations.

Originally Posted by Chris

A second RNA vaccine (same approach as Pfizer) has reported initial trials results and claims 94.5% effectiveness.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

This one is produced by Moderna in the USA. U.K. gov hasn’t preordered any of this one but is in negotiations.

[papa smurf]

My lager based medicine is 100% guaranteed to make you not bothered about covid or any other thing that might be worrying you, probably be 4 or 5 vaccines available very shortly as developers seem to be rushing them out.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Chris

A second RNA vaccine (same approach as Pfizer) has reported initial trials results and claims 94.5% effectiveness.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

This one is produced by Moderna in the USA. U.K. gov hasn’t preordered any of this one but is in negotiations.

With my statistics hat on, these two vaccine trials both being of mRNA type, now comprise something like double the sampling of any one of them. Very encouraging.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

My lager based medicine is 100% guaranteed to make you not bothered about covid or any other thing that might be worrying you, probably be 4 or 5 vaccines available very shortly as developers seem to be rushing them out.

No one has done the experiment of if it's possible to drink enough that your breath is self-sanitising.

[tweetiepooh]

If you drank that much then you'd be behaving is such a way that no-one would want to get close enough to be infected.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

A second RNA vaccine (same approach as Pfizer) has reported initial trials results and claims 94.5% effectiveness.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908

This one is produced by Moderna in the USA. U.K. gov hasn’t preordered any of this one but is in negotiations.

We didn't order any till today, and then in a last minute panic realising we cocked up. 'Hancocks half hour' again..... Then only 5 million doses which will only treat 2.5 million people and not until spring. The EU got 160 million doses ordered...

Lets hope the Oxford vaccine delivers or we've backed the wrong horse.

To be fair, Moderna is only 10 years old and has never brought a vaccine to market before. HMG’s strategy seems to be to back a variety of potential vaccine approaches, most likely because different vaccination methods will show different levels of effectiveness in different sorts of patient. HMG’s chosen RNA vaccine is the one produced by Pfizer which has decades of experience and ultimately won the race to first results. It is also likely to be able to mass produce more rapidly and at greater volume.

To insinuate the EU has somehow made better choices because it happens to have some of Moderna’s product in its portfolio is absurd. That was a gamble, plain and simple. Great for them that it’s paid off, but let’s not get all moist and dewy eyed over them as if they’ve somehow done something intrinsically cleverer than anyone else.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

To be fair, Moderna is only 10 years old and has never brought a vaccine to market before. HMG’s strategy seems to be to back a variety of potential vaccine approaches, most likely because different vaccination methods will show different levels of effectiveness in different sorts of patient. HMG’s chosen RNA vaccine is the one produced by Pfizer which has decades of experience and ultimately won the race to first results. It is also likely to be able to mass produce more rapidly and at greater volume.

To insinuate the EU has somehow made better choices because it happens to have some of Moderna’s product in its portfolio is absurd. That was a gamble, plain and simple. Great for them that it’s paid off, but let’s not get all moist and dewy eyed over them as if they’ve somehow done something intrinsically cleverer than anyone else.

Just a shame we've made the isolationist choices we've made over the past few years. This is a classic example on why acting together with other countries makes us stronger. On our own we're weaker and vulnerable in the marketplace.

Originally Posted by Chris

To be fair, Moderna is only 10 years old and has never brought a vaccine to market before. HMG’s strategy seems to be to back a variety of potential vaccine approaches, most likely because different vaccination methods will show different levels of effectiveness in different sorts of patient. HMG’s chosen RNA vaccine is the one produced by Pfizer which has decades of experience and ultimately won the race to first results. It is also likely to be able to mass produce more rapidly and at greater volume.

To insinuate the EU has somehow made better choices because it happens to have some of Moderna’s product in its portfolio is absurd. That was a gamble, plain and simple. Great for them that it’s paid off, but let’s not get all moist and dewy eyed over them as if they’ve somehow done something intrinsically cleverer than anyone else.

^^^
THIS

Originally Posted by Mr K

Just a shame we've made the isolationist choices we've made over the past few years. This is a classic example on why acting together with other countries makes us stronger. On our own we're weaker and vulnerable in the marketplace.

This is bovine excreta of the highest order, and frankly looks suspiciously like something you’ve had ready and waiting in Notepad to copy and paste at the earliest opportunity.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

This is bovine excreta of the highest order, and frankly looks suspiciously like something you’ve had ready and waiting in Notepad to copy and paste at the earliest opportunity.

There will be many more examples coming over the next few years. I sense you realise I'm right hence your outrage....