Coronavirus

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

You do know it's a condition of carriage to wear one on the underground don't you? Just don't want you to look a fool calling someone a preachy a hole on the tube because they tell you to wear a mask if you ever come down this way.

You know I dont live anywhere near London, right ?
I avoid it like the plague (which covid isnt, btw, despite how many treat it).


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Originally Posted by Mr K

It's the maskless who tend to be self righteous.

Nope (as with most of your drivel).

Originally Posted by Pierre

I’m getting on one on Tuesday, to go to Tenerife and there is no requirement to wear a mask.

Not flying Jet2, easyJet, RyanAir, BA, or TUI, then?

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/new...itish-21511456

And you’ll need a mask for Tenerife Airport…

Originally Posted by Mr K

Anyone choosing to wear a mask isn't harming anyone

I know comprehension isnt your strong point, but Im pretty sure even you should be able to understand "If people want to wear one, fine, go for it"

Originally Posted by Mr K

they are protecting you.

..and you're back to fantasy land.
In your rose tinted, land of unicorns, everyone might be like that.
Here in the real world, people wear them becasue they think it will protect them, not me.

Still, if thats your reason for doing it, feel free to stop, I dont need your 'protection'.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Not flying Jet2, easyJet, RyanAir, BA, or TUI, then?

TUI seem to contradict themselves ?

Passengers travelling with TUI must wear a face mask.

"Your face mask must cover your nose, mouth and chin – you can wear a face shield, but you’ll need to wear a face mask, too."

TUI also recommends wearing a face shield instead.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Mr K

It's the maskless who tend to be self righteous.
Anyone choosing to wear a mask isn't harming anyone, on the contrary, they are protecting you.

As for what to fear:-
BBC News - Portsmouth girl, 15, dies of Covid on day she was due jab
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-58772671
Even the young with no pre existing conditions can succumb to it. Another 121 deaths reported today, in any other year that would have been a major disaster. We still need to take this seriously.

Doesn't that give more weight to vaccinating 11-16 yr olds which everyone appaered to be against?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Doesn't that give more weight to vaccinating 11-16 yr olds which everyone appaered to be against?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Mr K

As for what to fear:-

So nothing to fear then, just more fear mongering.

You do of course have solid evidence that she died because she wasnt wearing a mask ?

People die from (many different) viruses all the time, unfortunate, but true.

Do you fear all of them ?

Have you been wearing one for the last 20+ years, esp in the winter months, and of course, through all the flu epidemics ?

I can guess the answer.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Paul

You know I dont live anywhere near London, right ?
I avoid it like the plague (which covid isnt, btw, despite how many treat it).

Yes I was aware you're not local, hence I said "if you ever come down this way", still sounds like you won't be visiting anytime soon anyway, why would you, bet London has nothing to offer compared to Nottingham

Originally Posted by pip08456

Doesn't that give more weight to vaccinating 11-16 yr olds which everyone appaered to be against?

Originally Posted by Mr K

Yes.

No.

This age group should be vaccinated, but based on population-level data, not individual stories, no matter how tragic they are. The girl here died of myocarditis, which is the same potential complication you get from giving people in this age group the vaccine. If you allow yourself to set policy based on how stories like these affect you emotionally you risk doing more harm than good.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Chris

No.

This age group should be vaccinated, but based on population-level data, not individual stories, no matter how tragic they are. The girl here died of myocarditis, which is the same potential complication you get from giving people in this age group the vaccine. If you allow yourself to set policy based on how stories like these affect you emotionally you risk doing more harm than good.

I think you are relying on a now withdrawn report on myocarditis and the vaccine.

Israel seems to show otherwise.

...In addition, only twelve children between the ages of 12 and 15 contracted a disease that causes inflammation of the heart muscle after receiving the vaccine, a minuscule number compared to that of children in that age group who were immunized. According to Health Ministry data, 331,538 children aged 12-15 received one dose of the vaccine, and 255,444 received two doses.

According to the ministry, one child contracted myocarditis, a relatively rare disease, after the first jab of the vaccine, while the other 11 were diagnosed after the second dose. All 12 – 11 boys and one girl – became ill three to five days after being vaccinated, and all have fully recovered.

Link

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I think you are relying on a now withdrawn report on myocarditis and the vaccine.

Israel seems to show otherwise.



Link

Presumably they were perfectly healthy children before their government got jab happy

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Presumably they were perfectly healthy children before their government got jab happy

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Chris

No.

This age group should be vaccinated, but based on population-level data, not individual stories, no matter how tragic they are. The girl here died of myocarditis, which is the same potential complication you get from giving people in this age group the vaccine. If you allow yourself to set policy based on how stories like these affect you emotionally you risk doing more harm than good.

Or even better, cherry pick data to make decisions based on vaccine supply and not public health at all, while working with active spreaders of disinformation (UsForThem for example) to muddy the waters.

And get Nick Triggle at the BBC to put out PR on your behalf.

The evidence on vaccination for teenagers is clear with millions of doses administered worldwide. What we don’t have is enough vaccines for that and the booster programme until supplies improve.

Which is why JCVI delayed making a decision despite MHRA describing the vaccine as safe and effective months ago. However none of that suits the narrative that you must now cling to as Government has no choice but to decide mass infection of children is good.

Originally Posted by Paul

I know comprehension isnt your strong point, but Im pretty sure even you should be able to understand "If people want to wear one, fine, go for it"


..and you're back to fantasy land.
In your rose tinted, land of unicorns, everyone might be like that.
Here in the real world, people wear them becasue they think it will protect them, not me.

Still, if thats your reason for doing it, feel free to stop, I dont need your 'protection'.

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TUI seem to contradict themselves ?

This page seems clear…

https://www.tuifly.be/en/flightinfo-corona-measures

A face mask during the flight
For passengers and crew

Wearing a face mask is obligatory at the airport as soon as boarding starts at the gate. You should bring your own face mask and wear it during the flight. Face masks must be changed every 4 hours, so you should make sure to bring enough face masks.

Passengers aged 6 and older must wear a face mask during the entire flight.
Face masks must be replaced every four hours. You have to take enough face masks for your outbound and/or return flight.
Wearing a face mask on board is obligatory. Passengers who do not wear a face mask or refuse to wear one will be denied access to the aircraft or will be requested to leave the aircraft before the closing of the doors. Should such a situation arise during the flight, TUI fly can decide to remove the passenger concerned from the aircraft (and reroute the flight) if this is necessary to guarantee the safe operation of the flight.
The obligation to wear a face mask continues to apply if you have received a COVID-19 vaccine.
See the FAQ for more information if you cannot wear a mouth mask for medical reasons.

What’s a suitable face mask?

A face mask that fully covers the mouth, nose and chin.
A surgical face mask or a (non-) medical face mask. Textile face masks are allowed as well.
Not allowed: other types of protection, like articles of clothing (e.g. a scarf), masks with an exhaust valve or face shields, are not adequate and cannot be allowed. Only if you are unable to wear a mouth mask on the plane for medical reasons do we request that you wear a splash screen, known as a face shield.

I think the newspaper’s summary had misinterpreted their info.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I’m getting on one on Tuesday, to go to Tenerife and there is no requirement to wear a mask.

Enjoy.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I’m getting on one on Tuesday, to go to Tenerife and there is no requirement to wear a mask.

Happy holidays!