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Old 25-03-2019, 15:46   #736
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The point being Disney and others want you and in fact rely on people continuing to subscribe.

Let's see how long some of these services last when people are dipping in and out a month at a time. Great for the consumer but not a great business model let's be honest not when they are wanting to see revenue growth year on year.
I don't think the vast majority of Netflix and Amazon subscribers are continually dipping in and out of these services (certainly no-one I know does that) and so why would they with Disney+?
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I don't think the vast majority of Netflix and Amazon subscribers are continually dipping in and out of these services (certainly no-one I know does that) and so why would they with Disney+?
I'm meaning as more and more launch just look so far at launched or confirmed services.

Netflix
Amazon Prime
Apple
Warner Media
Disney +
Comcast
Britbox
Hulu
Now TV
Eleven Sports

That's just off the top of my head and doesn't take into consideration the many traditional pay TV services. All these services are also competing against other digital subs such as music streaming , gaming services and books such as Kindle.

People only have so much money to go around.

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I'm meaning as more and more launch just look so far at launched or confirmed services.

Netflix
Amazon Prime
Apple
Warner Media
Disney +
Comcast
Britbox
Hulu
Now TV
Eleven Sports

That's just off the top of my head and doesn't take into consideration the many traditional pay TV services. All these services are also competing against other digital subs such as music streaming , gaming services and books such as Kindle.

People only have so much money to go around.
There is also a streamer showing NRL at over £20pm - cannot remember the name
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Old 25-03-2019, 20:49   #739
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I'm meaning as more and more launch just look so far at launched or confirmed services.

Netflix
Amazon Prime
Apple
Warner Media
Disney +
Comcast
Britbox
Hulu
Now TV
Eleven Sports

That's just off the top of my head and doesn't take into consideration the many traditional pay TV services. All these services are also competing against other digital subs such as music streaming , gaming services and books such as Kindle.

People only have so much money to go around.
Yes, agreed, but as I said before, you would not subscribe to them all. I subscribe to Netflix, Amazon and Now TV for example, but not to Starzplay (and I wouldn't either to Hayu if it wasn't in the Full House bundle anyway). It's no good subscribing to all those different services if you don't have the time to watch the content!

In the end, people are going to subscribe to those services that best meet their needs.
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Yes, agreed, but as I said before, you would not subscribe to them all. I subscribe to Netflix, Amazon and Now TV for example, but not to Starzplay (and I wouldn't either to Hayu if it wasn't in the Full House bundle anyway). It's no good subscribing to all those different services if you don't have the time to watch the content!

In the end, people are going to subscribe to those services that best meet their needs.
And the vast majority who subscribe to one or more of these services very much see these services as a little extra supplementary add on to their main Pay TV subscription.
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Old 25-03-2019, 21:01   #741
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And the vast majority who subscribe to one or more of these services very much see these services as a little extra supplementary add on to their main Pay TV subscription.
Yes, at present, many do. But as we both know, Den, that will change in time!
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And the vast majority who subscribe to one or more of these services very much see these services as a little extra supplementary add on to their main Pay TV subscription.
What about those that don't have a main Pay TV subscription? They do exist you know.
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What about those that don't have a main Pay TV subscription? They do exist you know.
l do know that pip as l was just stating a very clear point to OB that many Pay TV customers tend to use the streaming services as a supplementary add on to the main Pay TV subscription.
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I'm meaning as more and more launch just look so far at launched or confirmed services.

Netflix
Amazon Prime
Apple
Warner Media
Disney +
Comcast
Britbox
Hulu
Now TV
Eleven Sports

That's just off the top of my head and doesn't take into consideration the many traditional pay TV services. All these services are also competing against other digital subs such as music streaming , gaming services and books such as Kindle.

People only have so much money to go around.
In fairness, not all of those are launching in the UK - certainly Comcast and Hulu have announced no UK plans and Eleven Sports aka La Liga is pretty niche.

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They do exist you know.
Denphone seems to have touched a nerve.
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In fairness, not all of those are launching in the UK - certainly Comcast and Hulu have announced no UK plans and Eleven Sports aka La Liga is pretty niche.
Hulu have announced they’ll launch at some point internationally and Comcast have announced they’ll use Sky in Europe for offering its ad supported streaming service.

https://www.tubefilter.com/2018/11/1...international/
https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/14/1...r-bros-netflix

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In fairness, not all of those are launching in the UK - certainly Comcast and Hulu have announced no UK plans and Eleven Sports aka La Liga is pretty niche.

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Denphone seems to have touched a nerve.
I cut the cord long ago and am a happy Kodi user.

I can watch what I want, when I want and frequently before it even gets close to being available on UK TV.
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l do know that pip as l was just stating a very clear point to OB that many Pay TV customers tend to use the streaming services as a supplementary add on to the main Pay TV subscription.
Yes, but you saw the growing list of streaming services in muppetman's post. Slowly but surely, people will start to make decisions on what is best value for money. The existing pay tv services are bound to suffer big time.
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Yes, but you saw the growing list of streaming services in muppetman's post. Slowly but surely, people will start to make decisions on what is best value for money. The existing pay tv services are bound to suffer big time.
“Surely” is speculative at best. A list that doesn’t offer the diverse range and choice exist of providers do.
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“Surely” is speculative at best. A list that doesn’t offer the diverse range and choice exist of providers do.
Only because it's still in the development stage. That will change. For example, expect to see a Discovery streaming service before long.
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Only because it's still in the development stage. That will change. For example, expect to see a Discovery streaming service before long.
Oh dear yet another top up cost on top of all the other streaming subscriptions you seemingly have lined up for yourself as your monthly costs keeps rising and rising and rising so much so it won't be long before its much dearer to subscribe to all those different streaming subscriptions then it is a Pay TV subscription each month.
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