Brexit

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mick

BREAKING: Nick Boles to sit as an Independent, not joining TIG or Change UK, or whatever they like to call themselves today.

I’m sure the fact he has a spine means he doesn’t qualify for the invertebrate group.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Yup, discussed before in this thread.

I’m sure we can all live without debating whether statistics is a science or voodoo all over again.

They're trying again on Wednesday. Last chance for these people to prove their not entirely useless.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Damien

They're trying again on Wednesday. Last chance for these people to prove their not entirely useless.

I wouldn’t say last chance. I can see this going to next week.

That said there’s a lot of anger at PV MPs who didn’t back CM 2.0, this could see the latter make a breakthrough. Let’s face it, if they want to avoid Brexit altogether really CM 2.0 is a heavily diluted version vs the alternative of no deal or May’s deal.

[pip08456]

Not one of the indicative votes had any relation to Brexit. Any one of them would leave us subserviant to the EU in one way or another.

[jfman]

A trade deal with a larger entity like the USA would do the same. Chlorinated chicken etc.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jfman

A trade deal with a larger entity like the USA would do the same. Chlorinated chicken etc.

Yeh. OK then. Don't forget we'd have to eat dog meat and cat meat from asian countries and horsemeat from France if we got a trade deal from the EU.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Yeh. OK then. Don't forget we'd have to eat dog meat and cat meat from asian countries and horsemeat from France if we got a trade deal from the EU.

I think you've missed April Fool's by a good few hours mate. Lol, where are you getting this stuff from?

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Not one of the indicative votes had any relation to Brexit.

Incorrect, not just the particular form of Brexit you favour.

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Originally Posted by jfman

I’m sure we can all live without debating whether statistics is a science or voodoo all over again.

lol, I think the temptation to rerun is not just confined to Theresa May.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Least of all the Conservative Party with Jeremy Corbyn's popularity rising!

Jeremy Corbyn is a terrible leader of the Labour party but even a terrible leader to many in this country might be more edifying then a deeply destructive internecine perpetual civil war in the Conservative party when it comes to the ballot box come election time.

Voters don't like deeply disunited political parties.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If only I could get a non-British passport. The political daftness since the Brexit vote makes me embarrassed to be British.

The thing is the government party is so deeply eaten up by Brexit then nothing else seems to matter in this country like important policy decisions and if a political party just ignores those important policy decisions voters notice and become increasingly unhappy and come to the conclusion that this government does not care about anything else so they end up voting them out on their Jack Jones.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mick

BREAKING: Nick Boles to sit as an Independent, not joining TIG or Change UK, or whatever they like to call themselves today.

Pathetic. Mays deal is a whole bag of compromise.

They need to change the voting system to a ranked/AV system for, what has to be, the final round of this nonsense if they're going to get anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Pathetic. Mays deal is a whole bag of compromise.

I am not sure it's much of a compromise but at least it's managed and orderly with a transition period and a commitment to a future relationship. At the moment it's the only realistic option since Parliament are just being extraordinarily pathetic.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Pathetic. Mays deal is a whole bag of compromise.

In fairness to him, he voted for it every time.

I’m sure he’s referring to members of his party who didn’t vote for it and, mistakenly, believe they can achieve no deal by doing so.

No no,
No no no no,
No no no no,
No no,
No consensus ...

So much for Parliament taking control.

Of all the votes held so far, the one with the most positive support was not-quite MV3, with 286 votes.

Surely it’s deal or no deal now.

[denphone]

Philip Hammond will propose putting Theresa May’s deal to the country in a second referendum, according to reports this morning.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...77d2f95a200d96

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-election.html

Philip Hammond is a remainer through and through, who hates the idea of leaving, and loathes the idea of leaving without a deal.

He seems not to have noticed that a confirmatory referendum has been proposed to parliament twice in the last week, and was rejected both times.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Chris

Philip Hammond is a remainer through and through, who hates the idea of leaving, and loathes the idea of leaving without a deal.

He seems not to have noticed that a confirmatory referendum has been proposed to parliament twice in the last week, and was rejected both times.

This is slightly different though. That’s Parliament trying to fudge the question, and take advantage of splits in Government and on the Leave side. In almost every case May’s deal wouldn’t make the ballot paper.

Hammond’s proposals makes it Government policy to support May’s deal in the referendum. It allows her to defend it to the people and emphasise it meets her six(?) red lines.