Bring Back Fox Hunting

Originally Posted by Chris

Do you need to understand exactly why green vegetables are good for you before you can eat them? Of course not. It's good to eat them whether or not you know about vitamins. It's the same with the point I made above. Population control by hunt is a better means of ensuring the quality of the gene pool than population control by rifle. That's a fact, whether the farmers know or care about it or not.

i understand your point ,but that isn't what the farmers want they just want the fox dead ,not worried about the fox gene pool ,don't want healthy fit and intelligent foxes just dead ones

[broadbandking]

I just think its sick and if you want to watch some animal ripped a part then your sick in the head imho, I don't see the need for it, why are the chickens left somewhere the fox can get them.

They're not - they are usually kept in a coop at night, and the fox digs under the wire to get to them.

Originally Posted by broadbandking

I just think its sick and if you want to watch some animal ripped a part then your sick in the head imho, I don't see the need for it, why are the chickens left somewhere the fox can get them.

thats what i keep asking how come a fox finds it so easy to get into a chicken pen ,no answer yet ,and as that seems to be the only justification for fox hunting i don't expect one

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

They're not - they are usually kept in a coop at night, and the fox digs under the wire to get to them.

If the fox is really unlucky he breaks into this ONE

Originally Posted by foreverwar

They're not - they are usually kept in a coop at night, and the fox digs under the wire to get to them.

so that's how the little blighters get in is it ,intelligent humans out foxed by a fox

send the wire into the ground by 2 ft problem solved

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by broadbandking

I just think its sick and if you want to watch some animal ripped a part then your sick in the head imho, I don't see the need for it, why are the chickens left somewhere the fox can get them.

If you went on a hunt the chances of you seeing said animal 'ripped a part' are nil all but.

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Originally Posted by martyh

i understand your point ,but that isn't what the farmers want they just want the fox dead ,not worried about the fox gene pool ,don't want healthy fit and intelligent foxes just dead ones

Not always, some times they just want the fox moved on and some times they are paid by the hunt for use of the land, nothing is ever straight forward.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

If you went on a hunt the chances of you seeing said animal 'ripped a part' are nil all but.

seems a bit pointless then ,if the hunters rarely catch a fox why do they want to bring it back

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

seems a bit pointless then ,if the hunters rarely catch a fox why do they want to bring it back

Most hunts dont catch a fox your right but even when they do chances are you won't see the kill, it's only 2 members of the hunt actually see the kill as the rest have to stay well behind the hounds, you'd have to ask them but they seem quite keen on it being brought back.

[papa smurf]

i must say that since the ban its almost impossible to find a chicken in the shops, and can any one remember eggs ,the fox population must be dealing a devastating blow to poultry farms

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i must say that since the ban its almost impossible to find a chicken in the shops, and can any one remember eggs ,the fox population must be dealing a devastating blow to poultry farms

Since the ban came in there has been a massive increase in the number of foxes killed, for instance on the first day of hunting after the ban came in more foxes were killed than during the entire previous years hunts, the rifle doesn't discriminate between the young and healthy and the old and lame.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by martyh

i understand your point ,but that isn't what the farmers want they just want the fox dead ,not worried about the fox gene pool ,don't want healthy fit and intelligent foxes just dead ones

Whether the farmers care if the fox is healthy, fit and intelligent is irrelevant. The fact is that those that are healthy, fit and intelligent are more likely to be able to avoid being captured.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by broadbandking

I just think its sick and if you want to watch some animal ripped a part then your sick in the head imho, I don't see the need for it, why are the chickens left somewhere the fox can get them.

Barbaric just like the people that enjoy watching and taking part.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Whether the farmers care if the fox is healthy, fit and intelligent is irrelevant. The fact is that those that are healthy, fit and intelligent are more likely to be able to avoid being captured.

by captured i assume you mean mauled to death . for the amusement of those watching .

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

by captured i assume you mean mauled to death . for the amusement of those watching .

I assume you didn't mean mauled, as the fox is killed by one hound, with one bite, on the back of the head or neck.