Tivo V6 : Virgin TV Horizon 4 V6

[ozsat]

Sorry - I meant Tb - it was early in the morning

But I agree - replacing two V6 boxes with the two box Horizon option will half the available recording space.

Originally Posted by Raider999

Correct apart from it is Tb not Mb.

I stated this in my original post, Mythica doesn't seem able to understand - still not sure why?[COLOR="Silver"]

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by ozsat

Sorry - I meant Tb - it was early in the morning

But I agree - replacing two V6 boxes with the two box Horizon option will half the available recording space.

How will it half the available recording space? Am I missing something?

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by Mythica

How will it half the available recording space? Am I missing something?

You are assuming that you will have 2 V6 boxes and mini-boxes.

Nothing I have seen suggests this, on the contrary what I have seen indicates 1 recording box of 1Tb and non-recording mini boxes (on the same principle as skyQ)

Hence the recording space would be halved.

The original suggestion was the recordings would be on the cloud - but details such as recording limits regarding total size and time before they were no longer available were sketchy to say the least.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Raider999

You are assuming that you will have 2 V6 boxes and mini-boxes.

Nothing I have seen suggests this, on the contrary what I have seen indicates 1 recording box of 1Tb and non-recording mini boxes (on the same principle as skyQ)

Hence the recording space would be halved.

The original suggestion was the recordings would be on the cloud - but details such as recording limits regarding total size and time before they were no longer available were sketchy to say the least.

I wouldn't say I was assuming anything, more using logical sense. If you have two V6 boxes, why would you swap out one for a box with no HDD space, especially when your contract states your package comes with two V6 boxes and more so, the offer states it will not affect your current subscription terms and conditions.

Regardless of the above, nothing states that your recording space is getting halved.

[RobboEdin]

Why would you swap out a V6 for a box with no HDD?
Here’s a possible reason:
You can’t mix TiVo and Horizon boxes.
With two V6s, you would need to swap them out for a Horizon box and mini, halving your storage.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by RobboEdin

Why would you swap out a V6 for a box with no HDD?
Here’s a possible reason:
You can’t mix TiVo and Horizon boxes.
With two V6s, you would need to swap them out for a Horizon box and mini, halving your storage.

But that would make no logical sense. You'd just get a third V6 or leave the two V6 boxes.

Edit to add that none of us actually know what the offer is. They might replace both V6 boxes.

[RobboEdin]

....but, at some stage, V6 will be retired.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by RobboEdin

....but, at some stage, V6 will be retired.

Obviously, but that has nothing to do with someone's storage getting halved by taking up this offer.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by Mythica

Obviously, but that has nothing to do with someone's storage getting halved by taking up this offer.

You really hate to admit you may be wrong don't you.

Robboedin appears to work for Virgin - so possibly knows more than you or I do.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Raider999

You really hate to admit you may be wrong don't you.

Robboedin appears to work for Virgin - so possibly knows more than you or I do.

No, I maybe wrong. Not sure why you think that? It's just you've come out with some ludicrous theory with no facts behind it.

[fox35]

Originally Posted by Mythica

Obviously, but that has nothing to do with someone's storage getting halved by taking up this offer.

What offer? No offer has even been announced yet for UK customers? The "offer" you are alluding to is, I assume, for Eire customers who've never had the V6 with TiVo anyway, only the original Liberty Horizon, which this new offer with 1tb Horizon 4 or "360 TV" with mini boxes and the TV Go app is a massive upgrade.
As regards the UK, I can only see this for NEW customers after launch, with 1 main V6 box with recording facilities running the new Horizon software and up to 4 mini "slave" boxes around the home and interconnectivity with the TV Go app and all with cloud recording and storage added further on. Existing or legacy customers with 2+ V6 boxes should be expected to continue with their contracts, but their boxes will be running the new Horizon software and UI. Ultimately though I can see these extra V6 boxes eventually replaced out with the mini slave multi-room boxes connecting to the main V6 box and cloud storage added on, and further enhancing and updating to the TV Go app, but not until existing contracts have expired. The future of entertainment is clearly in streaming, and the "cloud" and the Virgin TV Go app will be massive part of that. Hard Disc Drives and Linear television will eventually be as obsolete as VHS, cassettes and CD's.
Cord cutting is a clear and present threat and will only intensify with new and younger customers who only want to stream with the fastest and latest tech. Virgin Media and Liberty Global have finally realised that and need to embrace it. Hence, also the roll out of the new Hub 4 to help meet this new ever growing demand.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by fox35

What offer? No offer has even been announced yet for UK customers? The "offer" you are alluding to is, I assume, for Eire customers who've never had the V6 with TiVo anyway, only the original Liberty Horizon, which this new offer with 1tb Horizon 4 or "360 TV" with mini boxes is a massive upgrade.
As regards the UK, I can only see this for NEW customers after launch, with 1 main V6 box with recording facilities running the new Horizon software and up to 4 mini "slave" boxes around the home with maybe cloud recording and storage added further on. Existing or legacy customers with 2+ V6 boxes should be expected to continue with their contracts, but their boxes will be running the Horizon software and UI. Ultimately though I can see these extra V6 boxes eventually replaced out with the mini slave multi-room boxes and cloud storage, but not until existing contracts have expired. The future of entertainment is clearly in streaming and the "cloud" is a massive part of that. Hard Disc Drives and Linear television will eventually be as obsolete as VHS, cassettes and CD's. Virgin Media and Liberty have finally realised that.

The offer we've been talking about in here. The one that is being offered through email.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by Mythica

No, I maybe wrong. Not sure why you think that? It's just you've come out with some ludicrous theory with no facts behind it.

It's funny how everyone else thinks differently to you - but you may be correct

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by Raider999

It's funny how everyone else thinks differently to you - but you may be correct

Let's think about this logically.

I'm on the ultimate oomph bundle. I've been offered something (none of us actually know what yet) but we're assuming from what people have said, new Horizon boxes. At this moment in time, with two V6 boxes, are you saying the offer is to take those away and replace with one Horizon box and one mini box?

That makes no logical sense and you wouldn't upgrade to that.

[spankysmagicpian]

Originally Posted by Raider999

Totally inadequate - needs to be at least 2Tb. I have 2 V6 boxes (as many others do) and this is often a push - to halve my recording space is unacceptable.

Seriously, I will be looking at reverting back to sky when my contract ends.

Incidentally, I received an email this morning stating my monthly charge will shortly be rising to over £130pm (do they think I'm made of money?)

Scroll down the email it says the same is available to new customers for £80pm for an 18 month contract!

Mine was going up to £137 but I phoned them up and agreed on £105 a month which I'm happy with as the unlimited SIMs are £30 on their own.

Just a warning - they are only doing 18 month contracts now