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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

We have much more choice than before Netflix was born. Check out the figures.

Under "non sequitur", the dictionary says "see Old Boy"…

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Is that a problem? They are simply joining the two streamers together. Britbox content is still there on ITVX, and there's a bigger library of new shows including new original material being added all the time for Britbox subscribers.

What's not to like?

Ah yes the content is still there on ITVX although I'm not sure that the library will get bigger as a subset of ITVX. Never mind though at least, with ITVX Premium, you get to see all of the ITVX content ad free. Unless, of course, it happens to be one of the programmes which mysteriously continue to show ads "due to licensing restrictions".

Originally Posted by epsilon

Ah yes the content is still there on ITVX although I'm not sure that the library will get bigger as a subset of ITVX. Never mind though at least, with ITVX Premium, you get to see all of the ITVX content ad free. Unless, of course, it happens to be one of the programmes which mysteriously continue to show ads "due to licensing restrictions".

And, of course, until the American fashion for removing box sets from streaming platforms to save themselves money finds its way into ITV Towers. Which it will.

Originally Posted by Chris

And, of course, until the American fashion for removing box sets from streaming platforms to save themselves money finds its way into ITV Towers. Which it will.

I guess thats what a strike gets you.
Since they were forced to pay more for additional streaming, they decided to stop additional streaming.
Its just an additional cost, they dont really get anything back from it, so why pay it.

Originally Posted by Paul

I guess thats what a strike gets you.
Since they were forced to pay more for additional streaming, they decided to stop additional streaming.
Its just an additional cost, they dont really get anything back from it, so why pay it.

That’s a misconception - the rights paid to performers were minuscule, and are now merely tiny. The real problem in Paramount’s case is it’s losing money hand over fist and needs savings to make itself attractive to a buyer; more widely the problem is the way media companies are structured so one subsidiary makes content whilst another broadcasts/streams it. They have to cross charge each other even though they’re part of the same company or else it makes the studio look loss-making while the distributor makes seemingly massive profits. It creates tax complications that are solved all too easily by simply taking stuff offline. For similar reasons, more than a couple of long-form movies have been made recently and then just cancelled, instead of released to cinemas. It’s a joke.

[OLD BOY]

Presumably, the rights to films already finished will be snapped up by other outlets.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Presumably, the rights to films already finished will be snapped up by other outlets.

Nope, that’s the whole point. The tax write-off is guaranteed money in the bank, plain and simple. Untangling the various rights that come with many films (production credits, distribution rights in different territories) is unlikely to be worth the effort for a risky return.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Presumably, the rights to films already finished will be snapped up by other outlets.

Very much not the case. Looking at WB, for example, having dumped the already completed 'Batgirl' and a sequel to animated movie 'Scoob', they're now seeming to want to do the same with 'Coyote vs Acme', despite interest from multiple sources:

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/9/24...ers-theatrical
https://www.thewrap.com/coyote-vs-ac...s-warner-bros/
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/batgirl-ca...171712006.html

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And where is Snowpiercer season 4? Another one on the shelf gathering dust.

[TimeLord2018]

The producers Tomorrow Studios have been trying to find a new U.S Home for It, thankfully WBD don't own it.
https://deadline.com/2023/09/one-pie...ew-1235544012/

Netflix would make the most sense since they aired it outside the US as a 'Original'.

Not sure what that link has to do with Snowpiercer ?
This seems more relevant : https://deadline.com/2023/01/snowpie...fs-1235221699/

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Originally Posted by Paul

Not sure what that link has to do with Snowpiercer ?
This seems more relevant : https://deadline.com/2023/01/snowpie...fs-1235221699/

From that link. . . The move is believed to be part of the tax write-offs for content at WBD

Originally Posted by 1701-e

From that link. . . The move is believed to be part of the tax write-offs for content at WBD

Unlike most material caught up in the industry’s tax wheeze, Snowpiercer already has extensive international reach and it seems even within the USA there’s hope of someone, somewhere, screening season 4. The article is ambiguous but seems to suggest its international release will still happen. ITV Studios apparently handles distribution. In the UK it’s shown on Netflix.

[TimeLord2018]

Originally Posted by Paul

Not sure what that link has to do with Snowpiercer ?

Granted its a long article but there specifically Q&A about Snowpiercer in it

Snowpiercer we have Season 4 in the can, which hasn’t been seen yet. We’re talking to a number of buyers about buying the first three seasons and also Season 4 which is probably our best season; we’re in the middle of that

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018

Granted its a long article but there specifically Q&A about Snowpiercer in it

The article is heavily skewed towards discussing its screening within America. The fact that international distribution is already handled separately (by ITV Studios) is a throwaway line at the very bottom of the article. They can’t just withdraw those rights unilaterally, unless they want a big lawsuit on their hands. If they have already sold the international rights, they can only control who/when/if the show screens in America.

It looks as if they won’t allow season 4 out of the can in America unless a buyer takes the 3 seasons already screened as well. This will be to push the price up, but it potentially makes the property less valuable to a broadcaster less interested in stuff that’s now several years old.