15-11-2018, 14:46
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Re: Brexit
No point is going back to Brussels it seems:
Theresa May's Brexit deal is best we can do, Brussels warns
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EU officials have warned those calling for Theresa May to go back to Brussels that the negotiators have “exhausted the margin of manoeuvre” in the talks and the draft deal is “the best we can do”.
As members of the cabinet and other ministers were handing in their resignation letters to the prime minister, the EU was trying to sell the deal to critics in London and member states who have expressed concerns.
One official said the negotiators had “exhausted the margin of manoeuvre”, adding that the political masters on both sides should reflect on the worth of having more talks and what it would do to the process with so little time before the UK leaves the bloc.
“[As] negotiators, we are happy to stand over the agreement, and we think it is the best we can do collectively with the constraints that we have on both sides,” the official said.
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15-11-2018, 14:54
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Well this deal isn’t going to happen. Labour will vote against any deal, many Tory’s will vote against anything that isn’t a hard Brexit. Liberal, SNP will vote against anything that isn’t staying in the EU.
I don’t see a way out of it.
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Of course, in return for SNP votes, she could tie Scotland into the same arrangements as NI for a more intimate EU relationship in the Withdrawal Agreement.
What is there for her to lose?
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15-11-2018, 15:32
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Re: Brexit
The Telegraph’s Steven Swinford says Michael Gove, the environment secretary, is telling Theresa May that he will only take the Brexit secretary job if he can renegotiate the deal.
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15-11-2018, 15:38
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Re: Brexit
Who thinks there will be a general election coming soon?
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15-11-2018, 15:41
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Re: Brexit
Hearing on the wire that Theresa May to give Press Conference at 5PM outside Downing Street.
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15-11-2018, 15:42
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Re: Brexit
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Hearing on the wire that Theresa May to give Press Conference at 5PM outside Downing Street.
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To discuss the deal l think.
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15-11-2018, 15:48
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
To discuss the deal l think.
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That happened yesterday and today in the Commons. This is something more ominous.
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15-11-2018, 15:59
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
That happened yesterday and today in the Commons. This is something more ominous.
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Probably going to say she will fight leadership challenge .
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15-11-2018, 16:00
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
That happened yesterday and today in the Commons. This is something more ominous.
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Guido Fawkes’ Tom Harwood reports.
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May had been planning to give a press conference yesterday to discuss the deal, and so this is not unexpected. It does not (necessarily) mean that May is planning some shock announcement.
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15-11-2018, 16:41
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
The Telegraph’s Steven Swinford says Michael Gove, the environment secretary, is telling Theresa May that he will only take the Brexit secretary job if he can renegotiate the deal.
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He'd be best positioned to do that if he was PM  Watch the oily snake climb the ladder....
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15-11-2018, 16:42
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Re: Brexit
YouGov has released some polling on Theresa May’s Brexit deal. The details are here.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...ck-brexit-deal
Sky Data polling as well just released.
https://interactive.news.sky.com/BREXIT1_151118.pdf
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15-11-2018, 16:52
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Re: Brexit
Saw this in the NewsThump site (humour/satire)
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Britain’s Brexiter community is all upset this morning after the magic pony they were told they’d get failed to materialise.
Outraged at news that a whole bunch of bull which they’d been told didn’t exist turned out not to exist, leading Brexiters have turned to the time-honoured pursuit of blaming absolutely everyone but themselves for the consequences of their own actions.
“When I voted for a pony with no plan whatsoever of how I’d get it, and then everyone whose idea it was promptly quit when they won, I naturally expected that free ponies would be lining up around the block for me to take my pick,” said outraged whiney Internet troll Simon Williams.
“I’m furious at this betrayal. It’s like the time I sat under a tree and voted for no apples to fall on my head. The subsequent behaviour of the apples was clearly undemocratic.
“Clearly the people who are to blame for this horrendous situation are absolutely everyone but the people who actually voted for it to happen. Seventeen million of us voted for a pony, so we demand the pony we voted for.
However, fellow Brexiter Jason Matthews, said, “Pony? No, that’s wrong. I voted for a unicorn and I won’t settle for anything less than a unicorn.”
Matthews and Williams then got into a heated debate over which of them actually spoke for all Brexiters, with each of them insisting that everyone who voted Leave only did so for a pony/unicorn (delete as appropriate).
When asked, Remainers said, “You won, get over it.”
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Other humour/satire sites are available...
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15-11-2018, 16:59
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Buckle up. No deal here we come.
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This "agreement" has nothing to do with "deal or no deal". That "phase" comes afterwards, IF the EU allows it.
---------- Post added at 16:58 ---------- Previous post was at 16:55 ----------
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Of course, in return for SNP votes, she could tie Scotland into the same arrangements as NI for a more intimate EU relationship in the Withdrawal Agreement.
What is there for her to lose?
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Then whatever issues the EU is supposed to have with a non-border between NI and Ireland, would also exist in a non-border between Scotland and England.
---------- Post added at 16:59 ---------- Previous post was at 16:58 ----------
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Originally Posted by ianch99
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It is NOT a deal of any sort, only interim arrangements.
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Subject: Draft Agreement on the withdrawal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union and the European Atomic Energy Community, as agreed at negotiators' level on 14 November 2018.
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15-11-2018, 16:59
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Re: Brexit
Tim Shipman the Sunday Times Political Editor says senior people in government still expecting Penny Mordaunt to resign today.
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15-11-2018, 16:59
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Re: Brexit
Proper history happening today folks - essays and theses will be written about this in years to come...
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