Climate Change - record World temp. rises in Feb.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

"According to our calculations, a cruiseliner such as Queen Mary 2 emits 0.43kg of CO2 per passenger mile, compared with 0.257kg for a long-haul flight"

"Travelling to New York and back on the QEII uses almost 7.6 times as much carbon as making the same journey by plane"

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2.../cruises.green

Thanks for that Spiderplant as those facts are very interesting so it then comes back to how much this country wants to reduce its carbon footprint significantly and in order to do that there will have to be sacrifices by us all if this country is serious about reducing its carbon footprint.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Indeed it is but unfettered capitalism is a disaster as well.

I didn't advocate that. I said a mixed economy is the best solution that anyone has come up with so far.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I didn't advocate that. I said a mixed economy is the best solution that anyone has come up with so far.

Yes, because it's working so well

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Yes, because it's working so well

It works a lot better when it has the right balance. Hopefully, that is what Boris will achieve. He certainly seems to have a better idea of how to achieve this than his predecessor.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It works a lot better when it has the right balance. Hopefully, that is what Boris will achieve. He certainly seems to have a better idea of how to achieve this than his predecessor.

Hmmm Boris will be gone in a few years so its going to need quite a few leaders after that to continue with the climate change message as so far our leaders talk a lot but talking the talk does not turn itself into action as we need leaders who can walk the walk and thus so far none of them have done that..

[Carth]

The trouble is, as soon as you start laying down rules & regulations you will alienate some people.

Those people are 'likely' to be the ones with money . . the ones who holiday abroad 2 or 3 times a year, drive flash cars (4x4's), and quite possibly have a business that may be impacted by any new regs.

Then there's the power/fuel industry, if they have to spend £millions to conform, guess who gets a price hike.

We're already seeing the knock on effect in the motor trade . .

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Carth

The trouble is, as soon as you start laying down rules & regulations you will alienate some people.

Those people are 'likely' to be the ones with money . . the ones who holiday abroad 2 or 3 times a year, drive flash cars (4x4's), and quite possibly have a business that may be impacted by any new regs.

Then there's the power/fuel industry, if they have to spend £millions to conform, guess who gets a price hike.

We're already seeing the knock on effect in the motor trade . .

But one can't have it both ways as if this country is serious about doing something with our carbon footprint there will have to be sacrifices even if this is not painless.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...vxl2xxDkOcs9z8

For the first time renewables overtake fossil fuels in UK power generation

July, August and September were the first quarter in which renewables outpaced fossil fuels since the 19th century, Carbon Brief said.

UK renewables generated more electricity than fossil fuel power plants over the past three months, in a landmark moment for the country.

The months of July, August and September were the first quarterly period in which renewables outpaced fossil fuels since the UK’s first public power generating station opened in 1882, climate website Carbon Brief said.

The new milestone confirms predictions made by National Grid that 2019 will be the first year since the Industrial Revolution that zero-carbon electricity – renewables and nuclear – overtakes gas and coal-fired power.

It is the latest milestone in the transformation of the UK’s power supplies, where just a decade ago some three-quarters of generation was coming from fossil fuels.

In 2010, coal, gas and oil generated more than 10 times as much electricity as renewables.

But since then electricity generation from renewables has more than quadrupled and demand has fallen, squeezing the share of power being generated by fossil fuels, Carbon Brief said.

Carbon Brief analysis found that in the third quarter of 2019, the UK’s wind farms, solar panels, biomass and hydropower plants generated an estimated total of 29.5 terawatt hours (TWh) of power.

That is higher than the figure for power stations fired by coal, gas and oil, which generated 29.1 terawatt hours, the assessment showed.

In the third quarter of 2019, some 40% of UK electricity came from renewables, and on a monthly basis outstripped fossil fuels in both August and September – the first time that has happened in two consecutive months.

And in the first three quarters of 2019, renewables outpaced fossil fuels on 103 of the 273 individual days, more than one-third of the days in the year so far.

The analysis, which is based on UK Business Department figures for the UK and BM Reports that cover the British grid and are adjusted to include Northern Ireland, is the latest to show the transformation of the grid.

Earlier this year, Government statistics showed more than half of the UK’s electricity in 2018 was generated from low-carbon sources, with renewables and nuclear reactors providing 52.6% of power generation.

[papa smurf]

Coal bunker is full,ready for winter,i don't see it being a steady 70F outside especially on the coast where i live.

[Pierre]

I’m currently sat in front of my log/coal burner burning away, Lovely and warm.

It's solar panels that are becoming much more effective. The exciting thing about those is the idea they be spread out generating small amounts of electricity across the entire grid amounting to quite a bit.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Damien

It's solar panels that are becoming much more effective. The exciting thing about those is the idea they be spread out generating small amounts of electricity across the entire grid amounting to quite a bit.

Pity they don't work at night then.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Pity they don't work at night then.

It's why you either sell it back to the grid or have a Tesla Powerwall type thingy that captures the energy during the day. Just need battery prices to come down which, in time, they will.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Coal bunker is full,ready for winter,i don't see it being a steady 70F outside especially on the coast where i live.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I’m currently sat in front of my log/coal burner burning away, Lovely and warm.

I'm not jealous, honestly

*stares at crappy gas fire*

well mebbe just a little

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Damien

It's why you either sell it back to the grid or have a Tesla Powerwall type thingy that captures the energy during the day. Just need battery prices to come down which, in time, they will.

They're doing lots of things like that in the Orkney Islands. A good programme about it on Radio 4 the other day.