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Old 16-08-2017, 15:08   #3631
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Yes, they need to be careful that they don't de-value their product.

It up-values Netflix. UK networks cancelling shows partway through the series is not uncommon; Netflix picking them up is great.


Suits, White Collar, Chuck spring to mind, and I know there are more.
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Netflix wins 'Scandal' creator Rhimes in blow to Disney, ABC

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Netflix uk picked up the good place.
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Old 25-08-2017, 08:22   #3634
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services

This is a few months old but it's a good article on how some Americans are finding cord cutting more expensive than their old cable bills.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...htmlstory.html

I suppose it all comes down to what you want to do to watch and do you want a DVR. With Amazon launching their Amazon channels here in the UK, and charging around £5 per month for the likes of Discovery and Disney Life, I can see how this might happen in the UK also.
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Old 25-08-2017, 09:07   #3635
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This is a few months old but it's a good article on how some Americans are finding cord cutting more expensive than their old cable bills.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...htmlstory.html

I suppose it all comes down to what you want to do to watch and do you want a DVR. With Amazon launching their Amazon channels here in the UK, and charging around £5 per month for the likes of Discovery and Disney Life, I can see how this might happen in the UK also.
The thing is, with a cable subscription, you need to pay out for the full package just to get the few channels you actually want to see. You can get more choice with a Freeview box and one OTT subscription, which will cost you far less.

I think people will coast between streaming options to get best value, given that there are no long contracts locking you in. You can still save money and increase your choice by combining Freeview with just one streaming service at a time.
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Old 25-08-2017, 11:45   #3636
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This is a few months old but it's a good article on how some Americans are finding cord cutting more expensive than their old cable bills.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...htmlstory.html

I suppose it all comes down to what you want to do to watch and do you want a DVR. With Amazon launching their Amazon channels here in the UK, and charging around £5 per month for the likes of Discovery and Disney Life, I can see how this might happen in the UK also.
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The thing is, with a cable subscription, you need to pay out for the full package just to get the few channels you actually want to see. You can get more choice with a Freeview box and one OTT subscription, which will cost you far less.

I think people will coast between streaming options to get best value, given that there are no long contracts locking you in. You can still save money and increase your choice by combining Freeview with just one streaming service at a time.
This article may also be relevant regarding American viewing and what OLD BOY said. It's quite funny reading how some people react to the concept of free TV.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...nna/ar-AApmLwm

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Old 25-08-2017, 12:47   #3637
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This article may also be relevant regarding American viewing and what OLD BOY said. It's quite funny reading how some people react to the concept of free TV.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...nna/ar-AApmLwm
Thanks for the link. That was a good read. Nearly 1/3 of Americans totally clueless that they can watch TV free to air. No wonder cable and streaming has been big business in recent years. It's also interesting that youngsters might never have experienced free to air TV.
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The thing is, with a cable subscription, you need to pay out for the full package just to get the few channels you actually want to see. You can get more choice with a Freeview box and one OTT subscription, which will cost you far less.

I think people will coast between streaming options to get best value, given that there are no long contracts locking you in. You can still save money and increase your choice by combining Freeview with just one streaming service at a time.
You could argue that in the UK we have already reached the point where OTT is as expensive if not more so than a cable/satellite package.

Lets take the most common OTT subscriptions as an example on a monthly basis....
If you were foolish enough to pay full price and not take advantage of vouchers or frequent offers with Now TV then to take the full package of movies, entertainment, kids and sports would be (if my maths is correct) £54.96, add in £7:49 for an HD Netflix subscription and £6:58 for Amazon Prime and you're looking at a pound and a few pence under 70 quid a month.
Factor in £20 a month for a basic internet connection or more likely £30 (at least) for a semi decent connection and you're not far short of £100 a month.

I've worked the above out on the most popular OTT services, I personally wouldn't have every Now TV package (not without offers anyway) but if my subscription costs were that much a month I'd rather pay that out so that the services I want could hopefully flourish and provide their wares for many years to come.
What I wont do ever again is pay that sort of amount each month to subsidise a load of rubbish just so I can have the channels and content I do want.
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Old 26-08-2017, 10:12   #3639
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What I wont do ever again is pay that sort of amount each month to subsidise a load of rubbish just so I can have the channels and content I do want.
I'd bet there's a load of stuff on Amazon, Netflix and NOW TV that you'd consider "a load of rubbish" too, yet you're paying for it. What's the difference?
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I'd bet there's a load of stuff on Amazon, Netflix and NOW TV that you'd consider "a load of rubbish" too, yet you're paying for it. What's the difference?
I would liken Netflix and Amazon to subscribing to a premium channel, you're not going to like everything on that channel but its your choice whether to subscribe or not.
The pay tv model is to force you into paying for hundreds of channels in order to get the ones you want.

On another note I am experiencing one of the major downsides to relying on OTT services, when your internet goes down you're fubared!

Thank heavens for Three's unlimited 4G data which via my virtual router is now feeding my devices
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I would liken Netflix and Amazon to subscribing to a premium channel, you're not going to like everything on that channel but its your choice whether to subscribe or not.
The pay tv model is to force you into paying for hundreds of channels in order to get the ones you want.

On another note I am experiencing one of the major downsides to relying on OTT services, when your internet goes down you're fubared!

Thank heavens for Three's unlimited 4G data which via my virtual router is now feeding my devices
I had that nightmare with Origin luckily i'm still with SKY for a couple of months and ofcom got involved with Origin broadband and forced them to allow me to leave without penalty.
With a much better provider now apart from the weekly drop out which is just my dynamic ip addy being changed i've had no issues.
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I'd bet there's a load of stuff on Amazon, Netflix and NOW TV that you'd consider "a load of rubbish" too, yet you're paying for it. What's the difference?
I think there is a big difference, spider. There is far more rubbish on the (non premium) pay channels and good stuff is hard to come by. Channel hopping is the most frustrating experience ever - absolutely nothing of merit on for most of the time. I have always prided myself at how I manage to retrieve a sufficient number of gems from the schedules to record, but this last year has seen a big reduction in shows worth recording. Most of my recordings (apart from the lifestyle programmes for my wife) are from free terrestrial channels and reside on my DVD recorder. Although both of my V6s are 80 to 90% full (with HD recordings) the number of good quality dramas on there is fairly sparse - very disappointing.

Whereas, it takes no time at all to rack up some jolly good stuff on Netflix and Amazon - so many hours of it, I'm never going to be able to watch it all.

That's why so many people are beginning to question the value of their pay tv packages. 200 odd channels and nothing on. And very expensive, at that.
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I'd bet there's a load of stuff on Amazon, Netflix and NOW TV that you'd consider "a load of rubbish" too, yet you're paying for it. What's the difference?
There is no difference.

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I think there is a big difference, spider. There is far more rubbish on the (non premium) pay channels and good stuff is hard to come by. Channel hopping is the most frustrating experience ever - absolutely nothing of merit on for most of the time. I have always prided myself at how I manage to retrieve a sufficient number of gems from the schedules to record, but this last year has seen a big reduction in shows worth recording. Most of my recordings (apart from the lifestyle programmes for my wife) are from free terrestrial channels and reside on my DVD recorder. Although both of my V6s are 80 to 90% full (with HD recordings) the number of good quality dramas on there is fairly sparse - very disappointing.

Whereas, it takes no time at all to rack up some jolly good stuff on Netflix and Amazon - so many hours of it, I'm never going to be able to watch it all.

That's why so many people are beginning to question the value of their pay tv packages. 200 odd channels and nothing on. And very expensive, at that.
Rubbish as open your eyes and you might be pleasantly surprised.
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There is no difference.

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Rubbish as open your eyes and you might be pleasantly surprised.
I can assure you, Den, I scour the TV guide in a fine toothcomb.

You have a right to disagree with me, but I can't think what you must be watching. There has been a distinct reduction in programme quality in this last year on the pay tv channels.
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There is no difference
I would argue there is a huge difference.
If I want to subscribe to premium content on pay TV I am forced to take a package of channels I do not want.
Those non premium channels have no incentive to attract me as a viewer because they are getting their guaranteed income from the pay TV provider from my subscription to a service I don't want.

With Netflix I choose to pay them my monthly subscription, if they don't produce content I want to watch then I simply cancel my sub.

For me Amazon is slightly different as I would have a Prime account anyway, but if you just wanted their video service then the principle I outlined above would hold true.

Further more I am not restricted to the pay TV operators propriety equipment in order to view OTT services.
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