Brexit - Page 251

nomadking · 02-07-2019, 20:59

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It could be extended until December 2022.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...tant-1.3671622

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A timely reminder from the Chancellor about the economic impact of a no deal. These do include a generous allowance for free trade deals with the US and others.

https://www.ft.com/content/d63ad18c-...e-8b459ed04726

"Could be". Even with that it would be no deal in 2023.

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The idea is to give time for a new deal on the future relationship between the EU and UK to be worked out after the UK leaves.

As I said there ISN'T a deal currently on offer.

Pierre · 02-07-2019, 21:01

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Originally Posted by richard s

Well Farage and all the other idiots showed how childish they are by turning their backs on the EU anthem... Farage not in my name.

Whereas the LibDems wearing bright yellow “bollocks to Brexit” t-shirts were so classy.

I have sympathy with their position. They didn’t stand for the EU anthem and were then chastised, being told that it is a matter of respect to stand for a “ country’s “ national anthem!

The EU is not a country, state, principality or nation. They were well within their remit to refuse to give such a political entity that has been formed without any democratic mandate such recognition.

1andrew1 · 02-07-2019, 21:08

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Originally Posted by nomadking

"Could be". Even with that it would be no deal in 2023.
As I said there ISN'T a deal currently on offer.

It's still ours to accept and I'm sure that's what BoJo will do. A few tweaks to some wording and job's a good 'un.

nomadking · 02-07-2019, 21:16

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's still ours to accept and I'm sure that's what BoJo will do. A few tweaks to some wording and job's a good 'un.

There ISN'T any sort of proposed ongoing deal to accept or reject in the first place.

1andrew1 · 02-07-2019, 21:21

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Originally Posted by nomadking

There ISN'T any sort of proposed ongoing deal to accept or reject in the first place.

Prepare to be surprised then.

nomadking · 02-07-2019, 21:23

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Prepare to be surprised then.

Either there is currently a deal on offer or there isn't. If there is, what is it? Otherwise the current situation is that a no deal situation will occur.

Sephiroth · 02-07-2019, 21:31

I think it plausible that a last minute agreement will be reached that will allow Gatt 24 to come into play.

nomadking · 02-07-2019, 21:48

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I think it plausible that a last minute agreement will be reached that will allow Gatt 24 to come into play.

So there ISN'T currently a deal to either accept or reject? The claims of a deal having been rejected are nonsense.

1andrew1 · 02-07-2019, 21:53

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Either there is currently a deal on offer or there isn't. If there is, what is it? Otherwise the current situation is that a no deal situation will occur.

The withdrawal agreement deal is the one agreed between Theresa May and the EU.

pip08456 · 02-07-2019, 22:01

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The withdrawal agreement deal is the one agreed between Theresa May and the EU.

The withdrawal agreement never ever was nor ever will be a "deal". Nice try though.

nomadking · 02-07-2019, 22:07

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The withdrawal agreement deal is the one agreed between Theresa May and the EU.

The one with continued freedom of movement, following EU rules and the ECJ, EU set tariffs on non-EU goods, no trade deals allowed, and of course paying them a lot of money?

**Damien** · 02-07-2019, 22:09

The withdrawal agreement is a 'deal' which provides the transition period, covers all the legal stuff involved with that and also has a softer political declaration which gives a direction of travel for the subsequent attempts at a trade deal. The future agreement. It is a deal. It is not the final deal.

Everything else is splitting hairs.

1andrew1 · 02-07-2019, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Damien

The withdrawal agreement is a 'deal' which provides the transition period, covers all the legal stuff involved with that and also has a softer political declaration which gives a direction of travel for the subsequent attempts at a trade deal. The future agreement. It is a deal. It is not the final deal.

Everything else is splitting hairs.

Exactly.

pip08456 · 02-07-2019, 22:17

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Originally Posted by Damien

The withdrawal agreement is a 'deal' which provides the transition period, covers all the legal stuff involved with that and also has a softer political declaration which gives a direction of travel for the subsequent attempts at a trade deal. The future agreement. It is a deal. It is not the final deal.

Everything else is splitting hairs.

Bollocks!

**Damien** · 02-07-2019, 22:23

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Whereas the LibDems wearing bright yellow “bollocks to Brexit” t-shirts were so classy.

I have sympathy with their position. They didn’t stand for the EU anthem and were then chastised, being told that it is a matter of respect to stand for a “ country’s “ national anthem!

The EU is not a country, state, principality or nation. They were well within their remit to refuse to give such a political entity that has been formed without any democratic mandate such recognition.

I don't understand why anyone cares. It's a bit rude to the live performers but they got the attention they want and it works for them. Same with the t-shits, a bunch of nothing that somehow invites faux-outrage and pearl clutching.

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Bollocks!

What would you call the Withdrawal Agreement then?