25-06-2008, 15:51
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by NTLVictim
"We’re also going to help out making a website about easy encryption - both for your harddrives and your net traffic."
From Peter Sundes' blog, which can be found HERE
Every little helps, everyday the erosion builds, everyday their model fails a little more as the knowledge spreads..
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If BTPhorm go ahead and many of us turn to encryption I think we should run a pool on when some clueless minister (Jacqui?) suggests that encryption should be outlawed on the net.
The problem for HMG is that it would interfere with data retention policies. My records would probably show that I only ever visit one site. My encrypted proxy - in another country.
Yet another reason for HMG to outlaw Phorm and the other parasites.
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25-06-2008, 15:51
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#10112
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by bluecar1
could it be stephen hawking uses a computer to synthesize speech as he can't talk himself?
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Nope.
I quoted it because we just need to keep spreading the word, but there is real irony there, trust me.
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25-06-2008, 15:53
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by NTLVictim
"ıt doesn't have to be like this.....
all we need to do is make sure we keep talking."
-Stephen Hawking
Finally got a Mighty Floyd reference in.
Ok, who can spot the delicious irony relating to the quote I just used?
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Isn't Stepehn Hawking the person who passed with honours and has an illness something not sure if it was motor something seem to remember him in the news a lot.
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25-06-2008, 16:02
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Florence
Isn't Stepehn Hawking the person who passed with honours and has an illness something not sure if it was motor something seem to remember him in the news a lot.
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He has motor neurone disease and despite this holds Newtons chair as the Lucasian professor of mathematics at Cambridge, he is regarded as the greatest scientific mind since Newton or Einstein.
I like his books.
We haven't found the irony yet...sorry mods, just a bit of morale boosting.
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25-06-2008, 16:05
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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- Letter to Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer expressing grave concern that she has apparently met with a 'Wolf in sheeps clothing' and simply referencing the history of Phorm as 121Media with a non-technical short explanation of what rootkits are.
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Dear Cable Forum,
Since I spoke in the Lords about data protection, I have learnt more about the gaps in the regulations covering organisations such as Phorm and their webwise system. I agree that there are serious questions to be answered about information interception through ISPs and its implications for web users and website owners.
I am grateful to several forum members for contributing to my understanding of the next steps that can be taken in legislation.
Data protection and privacy are increasingly under threat in this country, partly because the internet is awash with people’s personal information. The general public has, like me, a pretty basic understanding of the technology, so it has been especially useful to have such a lively correspondence following the debate. Thank you for working hard to bring to light the issues involved in this case. While the Lords may not seem to you to be a natural place to debate questions of online data security, I assure you that the Liberal Democrats in both Houses will work hard to ensure the better regulation of data protection both off- and on-line.
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer
Liberal Democrat Home Affairs Spokesperson
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25-06-2008, 16:15
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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While the Lords may not seem to you to be a natural place to debate questions of online data security
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More worrying is that it seems to be the only place that debate is taking place.
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25-06-2008, 16:17
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Sue Miller
Dear Cable Forum,
Since I spoke in the Lords about data protection, I have learnt more about the gaps in the regulations covering organisations such as Phorm and their webwise system. I agree that there are serious questions to be answered about information interception through ISPs and its implications for web users and website owners.
I am grateful to several forum members for contributing to my understanding of the next steps that can be taken in legislation.
Data protection and privacy are increasingly under threat in this country, partly because the internet is awash with people’s personal information. The general public has, like me, a pretty basic understanding of the technology, so it has been especially useful to have such a lively correspondence following the debate. Thank you for working hard to bring to light the issues involved in this case. While the Lords may not seem to you to be a natural place to debate questions of online data security, I assure you that the Liberal Democrats in both Houses will work hard to ensure the better regulation of data protection both off- and on-line.
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer
Liberal Democrat Home Affairs Spokesperson
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Reading this sent shivers down my spine I suddenly feel we are getting somewhere, I know things move slowly but a light has just started to shine.
Many thanks for posting this and if you are the lady my gratitude for coming here to post we do appreciate all who are willing to listen..
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25-06-2008, 16:18
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Sue Miller
Dear Cable Forum,
Since I spoke in the Lords about data protection, I have learnt more about the gaps in the regulations covering organisations such as Phorm and their webwise system. I agree that there are serious questions to be answered about information interception through ISPs and its implications for web users and website owners.
I am grateful to several forum members for contributing to my understanding of the next steps that can be taken in legislation.
Data protection and privacy are increasingly under threat in this country, partly because the internet is awash with people’s personal information. The general public has, like me, a pretty basic understanding of the technology, so it has been especially useful to have such a lively correspondence following the debate. Thank you for working hard to bring to light the issues involved in this case. While the Lords may not seem to you to be a natural place to debate questions of online data security, I assure you that the Liberal Democrats in both Houses will work hard to ensure the better regulation of data protection both off- and on-line.
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer
Liberal Democrat Home Affairs Spokesperson
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Welcome to the forum and thank you for keeping an open mind about the issue.
Your posting here is greatly appreciated.
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25-06-2008, 16:18
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Sue Miller
Dear Cable Forum,
Since I spoke in the Lords about data protection, I have learnt more about the gaps in the regulations covering organisations such as Phorm and their webwise system. I agree that there are serious questions to be answered about information interception through ISPs and its implications for web users and website owners.
I am grateful to several forum members for contributing to my understanding of the next steps that can be taken in legislation.
Data protection and privacy are increasingly under threat in this country, partly because the internet is awash with people’s personal information. The general public has, like me, a pretty basic understanding of the technology, so it has been especially useful to have such a lively correspondence following the debate. Thank you for working hard to bring to light the issues involved in this case. While the Lords may not seem to you to be a natural place to debate questions of online data security, I assure you that the Liberal Democrats in both Houses will work hard to ensure the better regulation of data protection both off- and on-line.
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer
Liberal Democrat Home Affairs Spokesperson
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HI and welcome and what a great first post.
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25-06-2008, 16:23
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Sue Miller
Dear Cable Forum,
Since I spoke in the Lords about data protection, I have learnt more about the gaps in the regulations covering organisations such as Phorm and their webwise system. I agree that there are serious questions to be answered about information interception through ISPs and its implications for web users and website owners.
I am grateful to several forum members for contributing to my understanding of the next steps that can be taken in legislation.
Data protection and privacy are increasingly under threat in this country, partly because the internet is awash with people’s personal information. The general public has, like me, a pretty basic understanding of the technology, so it has been especially useful to have such a lively correspondence following the debate. Thank you for working hard to bring to light the issues involved in this case. While the Lords may not seem to you to be a natural place to debate questions of online data security, I assure you that the Liberal Democrats in both Houses will work hard to ensure the better regulation of data protection both off- and on-line.
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer
Liberal Democrat Home Affairs Spokesperson
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Thanks for that, what a nice day this is turning out to be
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25-06-2008, 16:28
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Sue Miller
Dear Cable Forum,
Since I spoke in the Lords about data protection, I have learnt more about the gaps in the regulations covering organisations such as Phorm and their webwise system. I agree that there are serious questions to be answered about information interception through ISPs and its implications for web users and website owners.
I am grateful to several forum members for contributing to my understanding of the next steps that can be taken in legislation.
Data protection and privacy are increasingly under threat in this country, partly because the internet is awash with people’s personal information. The general public has, like me, a pretty basic understanding of the technology, so it has been especially useful to have such a lively correspondence following the debate. Thank you for working hard to bring to light the issues involved in this case. While the Lords may not seem to you to be a natural place to debate questions of online data security, I assure you that the Liberal Democrats in both Houses will work hard to ensure the better regulation of data protection both off- and on-line.
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer
Liberal Democrat Home Affairs Spokesperson
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I like her already...and Welcome, Sue!
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25-06-2008, 16:34
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Sue Miller
{snip}
I am grateful to several forum members for contributing to my understanding of the next steps that can be taken in legislation.
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Many people believe that there is already sufficient legislation for this to be stopped.
For some reason, it's just not being used.
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25-06-2008, 16:40
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I guess the lady is too modest to post it herself: http://suemiller.org.uk/
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25-06-2008, 16:49
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Sue Miller
Dear Cable Forum,
Since I spoke in the Lords about data protection, I have learnt more about the gaps in the regulations covering organisations such as Phorm and their webwise system. I agree that there are serious questions to be answered about information interception through ISPs and its implications for web users and website owners.
I am grateful to several forum members for contributing to my understanding of the next steps that can be taken in legislation.
Data protection and privacy are increasingly under threat in this country, partly because the internet is awash with people’s personal information. The general public has, like me, a pretty basic understanding of the technology, so it has been especially useful to have such a lively correspondence following the debate. Thank you for working hard to bring to light the issues involved in this case. While the Lords may not seem to you to be a natural place to debate questions of online data security, I assure you that the Liberal Democrats in both Houses will work hard to ensure the better regulation of data protection both off- and on-line.
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer
Liberal Democrat Home Affairs Spokesperson
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Thank you for taking the time to come along here and post; your interest in this matter is most welcome.
OB
btw. I've never waved a placard at a baroness before.
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25-06-2008, 16:50
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by vicz
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It was posted by Sue Miller I appreciate the fact Sue came to cable forum to post the reply for us instead of somone posting it or summerising the reply.
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