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Old 16-07-2018, 13:04   #4411
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Amazon to challenge Sky with smart TV

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It could neither attract leading broadcasters such as the BBC nor secure distribution on Sky or Virgin Media, though it did manage to gain carriage for Prime Video on BT TV.
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Is'nt Prime video on most smart TV's already along with Now Tv and Netflix?
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It'll just be an app on the YouView box, which is basically freeview plus apps.
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Alarm for Netflix as shares plummet on worse-than-expected subscriber growth.

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Alarm for Netflix as shares plummet on worse-than-expected subscriber growth.



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That was inevitable at some point. Our resident all things streaming expert will be along shortly to set you right.
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That was inevitable at some point. Our resident all things streaming expert will be along shortly to set you right.
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The Netflix shares have already gone up by over 100% so far this year, so most shareholders could easily stomach a 15% drop without breaking out in too much of a sweat.

A reminder: Rupert Murdoch and all the other Hollywood moguls are busy selling/merging their companies with each other and other companies because of the direct threat to their business' that Netflix and other streamers pose. That should be as clear indication as any, where the future lies.
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I think they may well integrate Netflix onto one of the higher packages on Virgin.
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I am sure that, sooner or later, you will be able to subscribe to a package of streaming services with Virgin. I believe that is the way to go.
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I am sure that, sooner or later, you will be able to subscribe to a package of streaming services with Virgin. I believe that is the way to go.

Possibly, but better to learn to walk befor you try to run OB
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A reminder: Rupert Murdoch and all the other Hollywood moguls are busy selling/merging their companies with each other and other companies because of the direct threat to their business' that Netflix and other streamers pose. That should be as clear indication as any, where the future lies.
And that's the reason Netflix will find it harder going forward.

Both Fox and Disney have announced they'll remove content from Netflix , a lot of the Netflix content is still third party content. Imagine how much they'll need to spend when they have to develop all their own shows.

Many of their shows are advertised as Netflix originals but are in fact produced by another broadcaster and Netflix gains the rights in the countries other than that of the broadcaster.

As an example 'The Sinner' is from USA Network (Comcast) what happens when they purchase Sky and look to expand even more into Europe will broadcasters then still want to use Netflix when they can distribute through their own platforms ?

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I agree, it will be interesting to see what happens to Netflix in the US when the Disney content is removed. That doesn't affect Netflix here, as that's covered by a separate deal.

For most of us, the whole reason for subscribing to Netflix was to watch a range of films and shows from different studios and broadcasters. But when one of these companies threatened Netflix about five years ago with removal of content, Netflix had to start making its own stuff or face possible oblivion. The shoe is on the other foot now.

As you say, unlike Amazon which does separate out its own made stuff from "exclusive" content, Netflix just has everything under the originals badge, but it does still have a vast library now of its own made stuff, but obviously nowhere near as much as Disney and far, far behind Disney and Fox content put together.

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I am sure that, sooner or later, you will be able to subscribe to a package of streaming services with Virgin. I believe that is the way to go.
I've said before (perhaps in this thread) that I believe in the end, there will be a core group of broadcast channels. Most of the sat/cable pay channels will wither away and then there will be about three or four main streamers.

300+ channels is not sustainable and have streaming too. People can only watch so much television, something has to give.
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I've said before (perhaps in this thread) that I believe in the end, there will be a core group of broadcast channels. Most of the sat/cable pay channels will wither away and then there will be about three or four main streamers.

300+ channels is not sustainable and have streaming too. People can only watch so much television, something has to give.
I used to think that, too, but reading about what industry experts and commentators have been saying, observing what is actually happening and seeing how everything has advanced in recent times, I now question whether any broadcast conventional channels will survive at all.

I thought maybe the BBC and sports channels might survive when first considering what might happen, but with the BBC indicating that they are contemplating the demise of traditional channels 15 years hence, and with streaming issues gradually getting sorted out, I now think they will all go. More and more people will prefer watching on demand to watch what they want, when they want, and more and more people will get fed up wasting their lives watching endless commercials.
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So all channels to go , how to do we watch Football or the news ?
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The logical conclusion, as far as I can tell is this:

1) Set top box is IP-based and fed via DOCSIS, G.Fast or FTTH/P (DOCSIS or GPON)

2) Programme guide is split into a row for each content provider (rather than each TV channel)

3) Each content provider contains a selection of live and on-demand content. Live content will include 24 hour news channels and sporting events. On-demand content (such as sky movies, non-live PPV events, box sets and shows) would be present.

4) There wouldn't be hundreds of poor quality, heavily-compressed standard-definition channels hanging around.
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