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Old 21-07-2012, 00:43   #16
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

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I have nothing against Premier Sport except that I can't receive it. If they succeeded in a bid to get Rangers SFL games and this got them on Virgin it would be a result.

Would they be brave enough to bid higher than Sky/ESPN? After Setanta perhaps they may be more careful about what they are prepared to pay for content.
The Scottish Football League are reportedly looking for bids in the region of £1,000,000 for the 25 game package. That's £40,000 per game. Premier Sports would only need to add about 6000 new subscribers to cover this. Personally, as a Rangers fan, I hope the rights go to either the BBC or ESPN. If they do, I will be cancelling SKY Sports.

The only football I watch on SKY is Rangers and Scotland games. Scotland away fixtures for the next 2 years are on the BBC. The Scottish League Cup is on the BBC. The Scottish Cup is on both the BBC and SKY. Plus there is plenty more live football on ESPN and ITV and good old Match of the Day on the BBC.
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Old 21-07-2012, 11:31   #17
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

It is still going on!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18929983

The SPL want further sanctions on Rangers and a share of Rangers Division 3 media rights. When is enough enough?
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Old 21-07-2012, 12:58   #18
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

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The SPL want further sanctions on Rangers and a share of Rangers Division 3 media rights. When is enough enough?
You want the media rights then you have Rangers in the SPL. If Rangers aren't there they should never just hand you wads of cash to keep your insolvent clubs alive.

The rest of the SPL can go and take a running jump. I'd already think the blackmail to accept the transfer embargo was coming close to contempt of court and now they've realised the golden goose is about to die and they want to squeeze the last few eggs from it.
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Old 21-07-2012, 14:27   #19
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

Rangers don't have to agree...they can just fold

They are merely getting what is due.
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Old 21-07-2012, 14:34   #20
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

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They are merely getting what is due.
Why on earth should SPL clubs get any money from a team that plays 3 divisions below them?

They did not want Rangers for reasons of 'sporting integrity' but are willing to hold them to ransom in order to get cash, where is the integrity in that?
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Old 21-07-2012, 15:03   #21
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

How on Earth can the SPL justify trying to get a piece of SFL broadcast rights? That's totally unfair on the other 9 clubs in Divison 3.

The SPL need to get their own TV deals sorted out first before worrying about what other leagues are doing in Scottish football. Still no news on what is happening with the SKY deal, still no news on the ESPN deal, still no news on radio and international broadcast rights. Meetings have taken place but all remains silent.

Fans of SPL clubs should be worried if trying to snatch Division 3 TV money is the SPL's solution to potential drops in broadcast revenue.
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Old 21-07-2012, 15:12   #22
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

It could be that they want the money due to the SPL members..rangers left a lot of football debts, even if you don't count the money due to the taxpayer that they stole

I think they are also due money to european clubs too

Football never forgets debts...only people that lose, are the taxpayer (and companies who supplied services to rangers and weren't paid)
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

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It could be that they want the money due to the SPL members..rangers left a lot of football debts, even if you don't count the money due to the taxpayer that they stole
Part of the sanctions appears to be that all the previous footballing debts are transferred to the newco so other teams are not going to be out of pocket.

Stole? I didn't see the first team in balaclavas taking out a security van.

Yes, Craig Whyte refused to pay NI and PAYE and that is currently being investigated. The use of EBT's was not illegal and was declared in the annual accounts when they were being used.

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It is important to remember we have already had a 10 point deduction from the SPL, lost our Champions League place for finishing second last season, had a £160,000 fine, been refused entry to the SPL, been relegated to Division 3 and lost the majority of our first team squad - yet still the governing body has chosen to impose further sanctions.
What else do you think should happen to them? Do you think further sanctions are proportionate for the alleged crimes?
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Old 21-07-2012, 15:24   #24
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

It was clarified on BBC Scotlands Off The Ball programme that all prize money due to Rangers for last year, such as finishing second in the league, has been withheld. This money will be used to pay debts due to Scottish football teams. Newco have agreed to cover any shortfalls that remain.
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Old 21-07-2012, 19:32   #25
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

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It could be that they want the money due to the SPL members..rangers left a lot of football debts, even if you don't count the money due to the taxpayer that they stole

I think they are also due money to european clubs too

Football never forgets debts...only people that lose, are the taxpayer (and companies who supplied services to rangers and weren't paid)
Rangers were owed more cash in "football debts" than they owed.

craig whyte misappropriated the income to the football off his own back not in consort with other employees at the club.

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Rangers were owed more cash in "football debts" than they owed.

craig whyte misappropriated the income to the football off his own back not in consort with other employees at the club.
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Rangers were stealing taxpayer money for years..fact. They used an illegal scheme, illegal because it was deliberately being used to supplement salaries..fact

Using that method, they were able to afford better players..fact
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Re: ESPN may lose EPL Football(Update)

Not being a Rangers fan, but l think they have been hit hard enough, for something that was not of its own making - it was carried out by the greed of directors.

The only people that will make money out of this and good luck to them, is the clubs that are in there div.

Its about time the SFA and SPL forgot about any further sanctions on the club and got on with business - and thats playing football.
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Part of the sanctions appears to be that all the previous footballing debts are transferred to the newco so other teams are not going to be out of pocket.

Stole? I didn't see the first team in balaclavas taking out a security van.

Yes, Craig Whyte refused to pay NI and PAYE and that is currently being investigated. The use of EBT's was not illegal and was declared in the annual accounts when they were being used.

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What else do you think should happen to them? Do you think further sanctions are proportionate for the alleged crimes?
Actually wrong. EBT's are legal, but not to supplement wages..which rangers did, that is illegal.

Rangers were also using double contracts, equally against the SPL rules

Rangers are being punished, for multiple crimes...not just one..that is the shocking thing
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Oh dear. I know things have got a little personal over the past few posts however as a Rangers fan I am both disgusted and offended by your discriminative comments. Yes Scottish football does have a problem with bigotry, especially in Glasgow, but such a sweeping statement about a section of support is totally unacceptable. I also don't know why you've introduced such an ugly subject to this thread.
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Oh dear. I know things have got a little personal over the past few posts however as a Rangers fan I am both disgusted and offended by your discriminative comments. Yes Scottish football does have a problem with bigotry, especially in Glasgow, but such a sweeping statement about a section of support is totally unacceptable. I also don't know why you've introduced such an ugly subject to this thread.
Sorry, I thought the old firm were supported on religious beliefs. Hence the songs they sing at games. Songs that only recently football authorities have banned because they are sectarian, and illegal.

I'm at a loss as to why not having the old firm playing is a bad thing. The amount of domestic violence in glasgow rises every weekend they play. Violence in the city increases. I don't see that as a good thing to be missed.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18938991
BBC Scotland has seen evidence that suggests 53 Rangers players and staff had side-letters giving undertakings to fund their EBTs with cash .

Illegal.

Rangers are not being punished for one offence, but multiple offences.

They went into administration, and got the 10 point penalty.

They then went into liquidation, and they are being punished for double contracts
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