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Who exactly is this Boris??

Hehe on another site im on some chap is cutting him down big time,saying god aweful things!!

Is this guy that bad??
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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

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Who exactly is this Boris??

Hehe on another site im on some chap is cutting him down big time,saying god aweful things!!

Is this guy that bad??
Yes.

He will happily sacrifice 66 million peoples, by perpetually lying, saying anything anyone wants to hear, whilst not believing in anything himself. His private life is much the same. He's already been sacked many times from other jobs for lying and gone through several marriages/affairs/relationships and has lost count of the number of resulting offspring.

Anyone that voted for him knew all this but still did so, as he has 'charisma' and is a bit of a laugh, so they can only blame themselves. The country is now in a worse state than any other comparable European nation.

All so he can have a bit of a jolly. On to the next wheeze which I believe is sponging free accommodation off Tory donors, whilst completing his book on Shakespeare that no one will read. Time for a new bit of skirt as well I should think.

(Does he remind you of a certain ex-US president Dude? )
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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

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A new dictionary definition - anyone who doesn’t totally agree with OB’s blindly sycophantic views is "cynical and downbeat" and/or "socialist-minded" or "negative"…
Of course, the end of the world is nigh...all is lost...surrender all hope all ye who live in the UK...

Does anyone have anything positive to say on here? All I hear is whingeing and moaning. I don't hear much about any positive solutions to the issues we face, though.

Even when we do hear someting about possible change, it ignores the fact that such policies have failed in the past (eg nationalisation of industry, rejoining the Common Market, etc). Nothing new. Nothing positive.

I think Liz will surprise everyone . Conservative leaning posters on here should support her. Everyone else can dream of Starmer, Corbyn, Rayner...whoever floats (or sinks) their boat.

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I saw Hugh jumping on you for your observation! I can see where you are coming from in relation to my assessment - but "give her a chance" to do what? She's offered nothing substantial but just repeats what she's said before.

The nodding dogs ensured that fresh blood would not be in the last two and I'm worried that the same ministerial failures, or at least half of them, her patrons, will find themselves ruining the country again.
Give her a chance to implement the manifesto, Seph. Agreed that's not new, but that's what people voted for. That is her commitment. There's only so many 'new' ways of saying that.
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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

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Of course, the end of the world is nigh...all is lost...surrender all hope all ye who live in the UK...

Does anyone have anything positive to say on here? All I hear is whingeing and moaning. I don't hear much about any positive solutions to the issues we face, though.

Even when we do hear someting about possible change, it ignores the fact that such policies have failed in the past (eg nationalisation of industry, rejoining the Common Market, etc). Nothing new. Nothing positive.

I think Liz will surprise everyone . Conservative leaning posters on here should support her. Everyone else can dream of Starmer, Corbyn, Rayner...whoever floats (or sinks) their boat.

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Give her a chance to implement the manifesto, Seph. Agreed that's not new, but that's what people voted for. That is her commitment. There's only so many 'new' ways of saying that.
No one has said that - except you with your standard straw-man argument…
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No one has said that - except you with your standard straw-man argument…
But you’d think so, given what people are saying.
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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

One thing that is surprising is that Johnson is being allowed to trash even further the Tory brand. He seems to be actively hammering the final nails in the Tory electoral coffin. Add the two wannabe PM's pandering to the prejudices of the Conservative membership instead of focusing on the structural issues that they need to address (when PM), I think seals the deal.
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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Anyone still wondering about Truss's performance should look no further than her much trumpeted trade deals with Australia and New Zealand. She's happy to let the country suffer so she can boast about signing a trade deal. Anyone concerned about the UK's reducing food production should look away now.
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It [Freedom of Information request] shows that:

— Officials advised Truss an Australia deal would spark a 3.44 percent shift in employment away from the semi-processed foods sector over 15 years, making it the hardest-hit part of the U.K. economy in employment terms.

— At the same time, the department projected a 0.46 percent drop in the value of that sector to the U.K. economy under the Australia deal.

— For the New Zealand pact, Truss was warned to expect a 2.69 percent shift in employment away from semi-processed foods to other sectors, and a 2.97 percent hit to its economic value.

— Agriculture, forestry and fishing were also set to take a hit, the analysis showed. The department projected a 0.69 percent long-term shift in jobs away from agriculture, forestry and fishing under the Australia pact, and a 0.16 percent dip to the sector's value over the same span.

— For the New Zealand pact, Truss was advised agriculture, forestry and fishing would see a 0.60 percent shift in employment away from the sector, and a 0.85 percent blow to its gross value.

The projections were made under the department's "Scenario 2," an outcome that most closely resembles the final deals struck with each nation.
https://www.politico.eu/article/liz-...nd-trade-deal/

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But you’d think so, given what people are saying.
People critically scrutinising candidates is not anywhere like saying the end of the world is nigh. Many of us have evaluated Johnson's likely successors and found them wanting. We've been similarly critical of Starmer and his policy-lite approach even though he won't be the next PM.
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Anyone still wondering about Truss's performance should look no further than her much trumpeted trade deals with Australia and New Zealand. She's happy to let the country suffer so she can boast about signing a trade deal. Anyone concerned about the UK's reducing food production should look away now.
Even the New Zealand news programs are reporting that it's a weird deal

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1550424899268886531
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Even the New Zealand news programs are reporting that it's a weird deal

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1550424899268886531
She just comes across as another Johnson - putting her career before her country's good.
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She just comes across as another Johnson - putting her career before her country's good.
Yes but she tries to impersonate and dress like Thatcher so that's all good for the Tory faithful. Turns them on big time !
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