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Old 10-06-2021, 20:20   #5731
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What exactly is the definition of a "wave" ?
A statistically relevant rise in cases and hospitalisations that peaks then comes back down again. So if you were to plot them on a graph you could spot it because it looks like a wave.
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Old 10-06-2021, 22:47   #5732
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A statistically relevant rise in cases and hospitalisations that peaks then comes back down again. So if you were to plot them on a graph you could spot it because it looks like a wave.
No sign of that then yet

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
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Old 10-06-2021, 23:39   #5733
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No sign of that then yet

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
tbf, you predicted in November there wouldn’t be a second wave…

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So you’ve written off the economy? What’s next then?

In regards to science, there is no science that shows anything other that lockdowns do nothing but delay the spread of the virus, that’s all.

Things are on the up, but still compared to 6 months ago, we’re nowhere near.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare

It was predicated, and I posted it on here, that there would be no “second wave” on an equal magnitude to the first, but that there would be an initial wave followed by several Ripples.

This is where we are.
Where as, in fact…

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...econd-23429602
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Deaths in the second wave of the UK's Covid-19 pandemic have now overtaken the number from the first wave, analysis of official figures show.

The latest provisional data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), shows a total of 117,378 deaths had occurred in the UK by January 22, where coronavirus was mentioned on the death certificate.

Of these, 57,701 deaths occurred between the beginning of the UK's pandemic in spring of last year and August.

Since then, 59,677 Covid-19 deaths have been recorded, Sky News reports.

The new figures show more than 1,000 Covid-19 deaths occurred each day for 14 days in a row in the UK in January this year.
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Old 11-06-2021, 09:03   #5734
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tbf, you predicted in November there wouldn’t be a second wave…

Where as, in fact…

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...econd-23429602
When it comes to predictions about restrictions, jfman is where I would place my money. Others seem to predict what they want to hear as oppose to what an evidence-based decision is likely to be. Didn't someone on here predict that the schools would never re-open for just a day or two, jfman said that would happen and they did open for a day or two before closing again!

Anyway, Sky News has an interesting article discussing the issues behind any further easing of restrictions. COVID-19: Could the Delta variant delay the final step on PM's roadmap?
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Old 11-06-2021, 09:35   #5735
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No sign of that then yet

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Mmm, I think you might be looking at nationwide data there so the effect is small. If you look where there are most cases - the North West (filter the 'Cases by area (last 7 days)' by region) there is definitely an uptick in hospitalisations and patients on ventilators (link)

Doesn't look like deaths are going up but it's not clear if this is just lagging or there won't be any. It's guesswork right now...
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Re: Coronavirus

Pinderfields in Wakefield, this time last week had 8 patients with Covid now there're 18 patients and 1 in ICU. With the lag between infection and hospitalisation, it's hard to say if it's just a blip or a sign of something more serious to come. I know the announcement is due on Monday re the 21st but think it would be wise to hold off any decision for another week or two.
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Re: Coronavirus

The data lag (hospitalisation) in the public figures is disconcerting.

But we do know from ancillary reports that there is rising pressure in hotspot hospitals and that the darkened areas on the UK map appear to be spreading outwards.

It would thus be most prudent to extend current status for two weeks at a time until there is certainty of wider public risk - not least to get 2nd does up past the 70% mark or whatever is the sound number.
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No sign of that then yet
Try this one https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

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A large group of "south asian" gentlemen got off a "Bolton Minibus" at the entrance to the local supermarket about an hour ago.

I had to wait a few minutes whilst they argued with a security guard as they would not wear masks.

Denied access. Very loud and abusive. But they decided it was hopeless, so they boarded and left. Bolton to Cardiff is a long way to go to do some shopping?
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Try this one https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

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A large group of "south asian" gentlemen got off a "Bolton Minibus" at the entrance to the local supermarket about an hour ago.

I had to wait a few minutes whilst they argued with a security guard as they would not wear masks.

Denied access. Very loud and abusive. But they decided it was hopeless, so they boarded and left. Bolton to Cardiff is a long way to go to do some shopping?
Sorry Taf not one of the graphs on that link show a "wave".
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Sorry Taf not one of the graphs on that link show a "wave".
Obviously, by the time you see the wave it's too late. What people are worried about is if the increase in cases we're seeing becomes a wave, it starts to build very fast. Remember how quick the winter wave came on.
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Re: Coronavirus

When are they rolling out the what if vaccine.
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When are they rolling out the what if vaccine.
The what if vaccine is the 40+ year olds. Now that sufficient supplies exist we can give the good ones to the weans
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tbf, you predicted in November there wouldn’t be a second wave…



Where as, in fact…

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...econd-23429602
Correct, but to be clear I didn't predict anything, as I'm not a scientist but I did repeat what a scientist had predicted and at the time I posted it, it was panning out that way. Cases had started to come down, look at any graph will show you that. Then the Kent Variant appeared and cases then sky rocketed.

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When it comes to predictions about restrictions, jfman is where I would place my money. Others seem to predict what they want to hear as oppose to what an evidence-based decision is likely to be. Didn't someone on here predict that the schools would never re-open for just a day or two, jfman said that would happen and they did open for a day or two before closing again!
Yes that was me, but again, that was not a "prediction". I just said I couldn't believe that they would open for just one day and that it would be madness if they opened for just one day.

I just underestimated the madness.

But no doubt our resident archivist will advise.
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