11-03-2021, 01:42
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
It's pointless taking an unneccesary risk, however small.
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We'll put that on your gravestone when you get run over, which is far more likely to happen.
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Perhaps they're being polite, trying to avoid infecting you in case they were asymptomatic?
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Yeah, right. I'm sure thats the most likely reason
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11-03-2021, 08:47
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The Invisible Woman
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Paul
It works.
Every day when out walking people purposely avoid passing by me (and each other) by crossing the road. The paranoia is ridiculous.
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That will be me then. I've a OH with lung cancer (hopefully in remission still) and I have to care on his behalf as he and I only have had one jab thus far.
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11-03-2021, 11:40
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#4053
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Re: Coronavirus
BREAKING: Reports of Blood Clots forming in vaccinated people prompts European Medicines Agency to launch an investigation into the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab.
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It comes as Austrian authorities said they were halting the use of a batch of the vaccine after two people also developed clots.
The first person developed multiple thrombosis (formation of blood clots within blood vessels) and died 10 days after vaccination, while another was hospitalised with pulmonary embolism (blockage in arteries in the lungs) but is now recovering. Two further cases linked to the batch were also reported.
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https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...ccine-12242530
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11-03-2021, 12:15
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#4054
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mick
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The European Medicines Agency is investigating but says that 22 cases out of three million people is no higher than would be seen in people who haven't had the vaccine. Blood clots can be caused by many medical conditions.
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The problem with trying to draw conclusions from such small amount cases v large sample size, is you can quite easily come to the conclusion that the AZ vaccine is causing more people to be hit and killed by cars.
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11-03-2021, 13:11
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Re: Coronavirus
Statistical analysis would also show that around 99% of those vaccinated haven't attended a football match or been to the cinema since.
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11-03-2021, 15:06
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#4056
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Re: Coronavirus
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Denmark, Norway and Iceland have suspended use of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine in a “precautionary” move after a Danish woman died with blood clots following inoculation.
At least five other European countries have halted the use of a specific batch of the vaccine this week, after reports of blood clots sparked a safety probe from the European drugs watchdog. Meanwhile, Italy’s drug regulator on Thursday said it had halted the use of another batch, ABV2856, after two deaths.
“Right now we need all the vaccines we can get, ” said Soren Brostrom, head of the Danish health authority. “Therefore pausing one of the vaccines is not an easy decision.”
Brostrom added: “Exactly because we are vaccinating so many, we also need to respond quickly when there is knowledge of possible serious side effects.” The authority said it was acting based on the “precautionary principle”.
Danish, Austrian and EU authorities said it could not yet be concluded whether there was a link between the blood clots and the vaccine. Sweden’s medical products agency told local media it did not think there was “sufficient evidence” to suspend the vaccine.
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https://www.ft.com/content/f9e5b8d8-...7-97f5adbeb638
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11-03-2021, 16:21
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Re: Coronavirus
Exactly because they are vaccinating so many, there are going to be apparent correlations between the vaccine and all sorts of things. I would venture to suggest the 11 million Oxford-AstraZeneca dozes given in the UK testify to its safety.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-5...ost_type=share
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Dr Phil Bryan, vaccines safety lead for the UK's medicines watchdog, says vaccine safety is of "paramount importance" and that it had not been confirmed that the report of a blood clot in Denmark is related to the AstraZeneca jab.
He adds more than 11 million doses of the vaccine have been administered across the UK with reports of blood clots "not greater than the number that would have occurred naturally in the vaccinated population".
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13-03-2021, 10:42
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Coronavirus
EU closes ranks over Covid surge and vaccine delays
Europeans, like many others across the world, hoped for a better and happier year in 2021 - after seemingly endless months of Covid illness, deaths and pandemic-linked economic misery.
But so far, so annus horribilis for the EU. On a number of Covid fronts.
The bloc's by now infamous vaccination procurement scheme - trumpeting the securing of up to 2.6 billion doses - has so far failed to deliver. EU countries lag significantly behind Israel, the UK and the US in getting jabs into arms.
A number of EU members have stumbled nationally, too, with heavily criticised roll-outs of the vaccines they did manage to obtain, in Germany, Belgium, Bulgaria and beyond.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56361840
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13-03-2021, 10:45
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10 yrs same company 😁
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Re: Coronavirus
Now getting my 1st dose of vaccine on Wednesday at my GPs, rather than being stuck with a 32 mile round trip to the mass vac centre next Friday.
Son is also getting his 1st vaccine dose on Wednesday (at risk group).
Last edited by Angua; 13-03-2021 at 12:00.
Reason: Extra good news
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13-03-2021, 18:03
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Coronavirus
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i...721a56fe55f3db
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Italy heads back into lockdown as third wave advances across Europe
Two thirds of Italy’s population are facing a stringent lockdown from next week as the third wave of the pandemic advances across much of mainland Europe and setbacks continue in the EU’s vaccination campaigns.
The infection rate across the EU has climbed to its highest level since the start of February and immunisation efforts are stuttering in many countries, with renewed shortages of the AstraZeneca vaccine and concerns about its possible side-effects.
The Italian government is preparing to ban Easter celebrations and order people to stay at home whenever possible in up to 14 of its 20 regions, including those around Rome and Milan.
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13-03-2021, 18:23
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Re: Coronavirus
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EU’s AstraZeneca vaccine problems linked to mystery factory delay
Dutch facility listed in EU contract is yet to deliver a single dose to the bloc
AstraZeneca’s struggle to ramp up vaccine supplies to the EU is partly because of the failure of one of the company’s key European manufacturing sites to deliver any doses to the bloc six months after the supply contract was agreed.
The Dutch factory, run by subcontractor Halix, is yet to receive EU regulatory approval to supply the region even though it was named in the deal signed between AstraZeneca and the European Commission in August.
EU officials said AstraZeneca was yet to provide sufficient data. The company said approval of the site remained “on track”.
The mystery of the Dutch factory underlines the growing questions over both AstraZeneca’s management of its EU contract and the bloc’s oversight. AstraZeneca has fallen far behind its planned vaccine deliveries to the EU, which has had a major effect on vaccination rollout.
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https://www.ft.com/content/8e2e994e-...c-31becd2ae0a8
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13-03-2021, 18:37
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Re: Coronavirus
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AstraZeneca’s struggle to ramp up vaccine supplies to the EU is partly because of the failure of one of the company’s key European manufacturing sites to deliver any doses to the bloc six months after the supply contract was agreed.
The Dutch factory, run by subcontractor Halix, is yet to receive EU regulatory approval to supply the region even though it was named in the deal signed between AstraZeneca and the European Commission in August.
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Ah - now we're getting there.
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13-03-2021, 18:55
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Ah - now we're getting there.
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The AZ contractors in the EU are not performing well with three out of four contractors named in the contract not yet delivering. This is the crux of the issue.
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Asked about the Halix situation, the commission said on Friday that the EMA was ready to fast-track authorisation of new production facilities once it received an application and the necessary information from AstraZeneca. “It is, however, the responsibility of the company to request plants to be covered by a marketing authorisation and to submit all necessary data to that effect,” it said. “The commission encourages the company to do so.”
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13-03-2021, 19:02
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Re: Coronavirus
The biggest cause of death in the EU will be
bureaucracy at this rate.
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13-03-2021, 20:09
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
The AZ contractors in the EU are not performing well with three out of four contractors named in the contract not yet delivering. This is the crux of the issue.
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The Commission slipped up big time by not squaring the circle at the time of contract signature. Fancy not knowing that EU production could not take place!
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