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Old 09-02-2017, 14:45   #1
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Kodi, legit or not?

I don't use it, don't even have time to watch all the channels I have and rarely watch films.

I have a mate who is always going on about how he uses Kodi to get all the stuff I am paying for without paying.

He watches BT live football and last night said he watched a flim, Hacksaw Ridge.

I know that a lot of content on Kodi is kosher but some isn't, are the things he is watching likely to be from 'illegal' sources?
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Old 09-02-2017, 14:53   #2
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Re: Kodi, legit or not?

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I don't use it, don't even have time to watch all the channels I have and rarely watch films.

I have a mate who is always going on about how he uses Kodi to get all the stuff I am paying for without paying.

He watches BT live football and last night said he watched a flim, Hacksaw Ridge.

I know that a lot of content on Kodi is kosher but some isn't, are the things he is watching likely to be from 'illegal' sources?
What do you define as an illegal source?
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Old 09-02-2017, 14:56   #3
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Re: Kodi, legit or not?

Preparing and selling "fully loaded" Kodi devices is a criminal offence (because wholesale copyright infringement is a criminal, rather than a civil matter). Serving unlicensed copyrighted material to systems like "fully loaded" Kodi is likewise a criminal offence.

Consuming content in this way represents at the very least, civil copyright infringement, and in some cases could be a criminal offence under the Fraud Act (obtaining services without payment - which would be the case, for example, if the system enabled you to view a channel like Sky Sports 1 without paying the subs).

Kodi itself, without the third-party addons generally known by the term "fully loaded", is simply a technical solution for easy sharing of content between devices you own. As designed and sold by its original vendor, it is not illegal.
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Thanks Chris.
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Re: Kodi, legit or not?

In the news yesterday...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38906561
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Preparing and selling "fully loaded" Kodi devices is a criminal offence (because wholesale copyright infringement is a criminal, rather than a civil matter). Serving unlicensed copyrighted material to systems like "fully loaded" Kodi is likewise a criminal offence.

Consuming content in this way represents at the very least, civil copyright infringement, and in some cases could be a criminal offence under the Fraud Act (obtaining services without payment - which would be the case, for example, if the system enabled you to view a channel like Sky Sports 1 without paying the subs).

Kodi itself, without the third-party addons generally known by the term "fully loaded", is simply a technical solution for easy sharing of content between devices you own. As designed and sold by its original vendor, it is not illegal.
Correct hence THIS
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Re: Kodi, legit or not?

I have seen all (well most) of the latest news articles, don't read the Sun though. in fact I send him links every time I see one.
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Re: Kodi, legit or not?

In short, Kodi is perfectly legal, using it to access illegal content is not so legal.

Its just the same as a web browser really, the software is legal, using it for illegal purposes is .... probably illegal.
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Re: Kodi, legit or not?

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I have seen all (well most) of the latest news articles, don't read the Sun though. in fact I send him links every time I see one.
He is safe though.

Single server sources arent looked at. The hosts and box sources are.

Unless he's consuming content via a P2P add-on like Plexus (Which given the quality of single server content you have absolutely no reason to do) he's fine until it all blows up.

The only other reason to use P2P add-ons in Kodi are Live Sports which again is just a game of targeting the source of it or box sellers.

With mentions of fraud being thrown about above. It'll blow up eventually. Virgin and Sky won't sit on their arse when people keep switching over to consume their content free.

The grass isn't much greener either. Your typical Live TV add-ons are rubbish. The majority of Kodi users are simply using it as a wider Netflix in STB form. All the content can be linked into your web browser on the PC and watched that way.. the old fashioned way.

I don't actually own an Android box. I use Kodi via mobile and PC. Its only because Kodi can save favourites and tick off what I've watched in series that I bother with PC rather than just using a browser. That and not having to travel through Acestream links for football on foreign networks.
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Old 09-02-2017, 19:23   #10
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Re: Kodi, legit or not?

As with illegal drug use, the police will only do you for possession if they trip over you. They have limited resources so they only actively go after the facilitators, hence the raids in northwest England this week which picked on the people loading Kodi plus addons to devices described as STBs (though which I think are likely to be Fire sticks).

Even so, people should be aware that since 2005 the Fraud Act has existed, explicitly to allow the police to go after people who take services without paying for them in exactly the same way as they go after people for theft of physical items. So if, for example, you are using a fully loaded Kodi implementation to access a pay-TV stream for free, and you should be paying for it, then that constitutes a criminal offence under the Fraud Act. The consequences of this are an order of magnitude more serious than the civil offence of copyright infringement, which is all you are liable for if you have a single, unlicensed copy of a blockbuster movie on your hard drive.

If they catch you, of course.
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In short, Kodi is perfectly legal, using it to access illegal content is not so legal.

Its just the same as a web browser really, the software is legal, using it for illegal purposes is .... probably illegal.
To be honest the same applies to any connected device.
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Re: Kodi, legit or not?

It is legal to own a knife. A knife has many legal uses.

It is illegal however, to use that same knife in a number of other ways.
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It is legal to own a knife. A knife has many legal uses.

It is illegal however, to use that same knife in a number of other ways.
Not 100% true, any more than 6" and you will get arrested.

This has included some chef's who have had it in a locked box in their car boot, he was done by the idiot cop who didn't have common sense.
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Not 100% true, any more than 6" and you will get arrested.

This has included some chef's who have had it in a locked box in their car boot, he was done by the idiot cop who didn't have common sense.
And the cop was repremanded and the chef compensated for wrongful arrest.
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Re: Kodi, legit or not?

I wonder what would happen in a situation where somebody got caught using Kodi to access illegal content when they were using someone elses internet connection?

There are plenty of places that now offer free WiFi (us included) or they could be using a neighbour's connection (with or without their permission).

Does anybody know the score in this situation?
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