All F1 2005 Discussions - Page 4

paulyoung666 · 24-04-2005, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Jonboy

no need to bow so low pauly the prancing hourse is still prancing about was only a matter of time before it was shod correctly

dont get me wrong i aint no ferrari fan

, it just made a change to see such a close finish to a race , and yes the coverage was *****e , i could not believe it when they went to adverts so close to the finish

24-04-2005, 22:41

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

i could not believe it when they went to adverts so close to the finish

The problem is that ITV are contracturally obliged to their advertisers to put in a certain number of ad breaks into the race and the show.

Because there was a lot of good racing instead of just a procession, they kept putting off the breaks until suddenly they must have realised that they were right up against the limit since the race was only a few minutes from the end.

It's still ridiculous and I wish the Beeb hadn't lost the coverage, but when it comes down to it, money talks

carlingman · 24-04-2005, 23:27

Nice to see a relatively good grand prix then for change although I am not too sure what them half wits at ITV were playing at FFS a commercial break with 2 laps to go

Altho Im guessing as Graham said above advertising contraints etc.

Hacked me off with everyone big upping the 2005 Ferrari being the best car ever.

What utter crap more like Alonsos Renault was on its second race with the same engine and he was protecting it.

I doubt Renault will get the same credit in the next race on a new engine when Schumy is nursing the Ferrari around, oh no I forgot that wont happen as they retire with technical faults when it looks like they are not going to get in the points.

Jonboy · 25-04-2005, 02:12

i hope you have all sent a snotty email to f1 about this boo boo i have bet they dont even say sorry or even come out with a feeble excuse

sherer · 25-04-2005, 10:10

the coverager by ITV was rubbish from start to finish. ITV have 3 channels now and when Q2 the bit that decides the grid now was taking place they were showing, Div 1 football, American Idol and some repeat on ITV 3 so why couldn't i watch it live.. esp has Mark and Martin would have been doing the comentarry for Canada, South Africa and I think Oz as well..

When they did show that i only got to see 4 cars and that was from their lap having already started and them being in the final sector so I couldn't see how well they had donw or what the gri order was at the time..

The ad as the end was just the final straw although really they should have been prevented from doing that in the TV contract.. It already states they have to show the world feed from 10 mons before the race up to the so many mins past so why not a clause about no ads in the first 5 or final 5 laps...

as to the race in colder conditions this helped the tyres that Shuey had so he got to second.. once again though what could have been a great race was spoilt by still have refueling.. Schuey was down in 13th knowing he had a far superiour car underneath him.. rather than risk overtaking on the track and something happening he waited for the other cars to stop and then put the hammer down.. if we didn't have any stops then he would have ben forced to use the performance of the car and overtake on the track

iadom · 05-05-2005, 10:36

Not looking good for Button/BAR

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sherer · 05-05-2005, 11:34

bernie is pushing to have them excluded and it looks like that might happen at the moment.. this reminds me abit of the Benetton case in 94 where they had the software on their car for launch control but it wasn't proved that it was used.. which is the same as BAR here they had the potential to run the car underweight but it can't be proved they did.

Back in 84 Tyrell were found to be running their car underwight through the season and they had their results removed up to that point and were then kicked out the championship

paulyoung666 · 05-05-2005, 14:11

BAR banned for 2 races !!!!!!!!!!

sherer · 05-05-2005, 15:07

that seems about right.. it wasn't proved that they were cheating but then again they did break the rules

05-05-2005, 15:14

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

BAR banned for 2 races !!!!!!!!!!

From reading the reports, it sounds like they were quite lucky it is 'only' two races. At least Button will be racing at Silverstone...

paulyoung666 · 05-05-2005, 15:59

it still seems a bit harsh to me though , doing it this way has robbed to potential podium place cars from the grid , ho hum i suppose thats the way it goes

Scarlett · 05-05-2005, 16:10

I think the big problem was that they just _assumed_ that it was legal and didn't bother to check.

Matth · 08-05-2005, 23:27

Great race if you like to see Ferrari suffer!

For the last few years, Ferrari could do no wrong and Michael had all the luck!

This year, their luck seems to have run out, mind you, to make it interesting, they need to regain some of their form, before Alonso waltzes of into the distance.

The Renault is good, the Mclaren is good, the Toyata's seem to have really made it this season as well.

If Ferrari manage to get pace, reliability, and shake off the sheer bad luck that's now dogging them, they will also be up there - though that leaves the rest of the teams scrabbling for scraps.

Not much passing or close racing though

08-05-2005, 23:59

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Originally Posted by Matth

Great race if you like to see Ferrari suffer!

For the last few years, Ferrari could do no wrong and Michael had all the luck!

This year, their luck seems to have run out, mind you, to make it interesting, they need to regain some of their form, before Alonso waltzes of into the distance.

The Renault is good, the Mclaren is good, the Toyata's seem to have really made it this season as well.

If Ferrari manage to get pace, reliability, and shake off the sheer bad luck that's now dogging them, they will also be up there - though that leaves the rest of the teams scrabbling for scraps.

Not much passing or close racing though

todays race was about tyres, as much as anything, the hot track conditions favoured the michelins, well done Kimi, Montoya has some catching up, to do

paulyoung666 · 14-05-2005, 11:26

now if i was to be cynical , this and what happened to BAR is close to helping ferrari out after their bad start to the season , i wonder if something will happen to Renault next