Election 2019, Week 1

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, I live in the Thames Valley and it rained today. We even have puddles but it's not made the news yet.

The funny thing is the SE of the UK is sinking and NW of the UK is rising. It's due to a geological process called ‘isostatic rebound'. Coupled with climate change, i wouldn't be anywhere near the Thames if I were you..... Could solve a lot of our problems if the SE went under.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

The funny thing is the SE of the UK is sinking and NW of the UK is rising. It's due to a geological process called ‘isostatic rebound'. Coupled with climate change, i wouldn't be anywhere near the Thames if I were you..... Could solve a lot of our problems if the SE went under.

... as per https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ear...new-study.html

Essex is doomed. But OB and I in Wokingham look to be saved. Politicians keep away from this risk (Essex, Kent etc)..

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

... as per https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ear...new-study.html

Essex is doomed. But OB and I in Wokingham look to be saved. Politicians keep away from this risk (Essex, Kent etc)..

Wokingham could get very crowded then. Enjoy

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm sorry to say that you're getting to be rather annoying with you half-truths.

By all means call JRM "insensitive" or "detached from reality" but to ascribe to him and every Conservative (including me) as "hating the poor" is going too far.

On your second point, is Yorkshire national or local/regional? You're seriously bending your credibility. A pity because I sometimes enjoy your writings.

But it is official, a No. 10 spokesman said so:

Boris Johnson's adviser Dominic Cummings: Tory MPs 'don't care' about poorer people or NHS

[jfman]

Originally Posted by ianch99

But it is official, a No. 10 spokesman said so:

Boris Johnson's adviser Dominic Cummings: Tory MPs 'don't care' about poorer people or NHS

It's fairly obvious to anyone who opens their eyes.

I'm happy to be on Dom's side for this one.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Carth

I just said I'm not racist, I've got no idea how they think . . but if people isolate themselves there's probably a reason for it

Maybe the local people make it clear they are not wanted there?

[jfman]

Corbyn aides are meeting with Czech spies again lads. I can’t work out if that puts him on the same side as Trump/Putin/Farage or not.

When this garbage gets peddled you know the media oligarchs are terrified.

Edit: oh dear Uncle Rupert isn’t happy. Sunday Times tomorrow:

Nine Russian businessmen who gave money to the Conservative party are named in a secret intelligence report on the threats posed to UK democracy which was suppressed last week by Downing Street.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by ianch99

But it is official, a No. 10 spokesman said so:

Boris Johnson's adviser Dominic Cummings: Tory MPs 'don't care' about poorer people or NHS

The countries that only care about the poor are the ones that end up in even more poverty, Eg Venezuela, Greece.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by nomadking

The countries that only care about the poor are the ones that end up in even more poverty, Eg Venezuela, Greece.

There’s no evidence for that statement at all. That’s just the usual BS bingo card along with anti-Semitism that the Tories wheel out. “We’re better than Greece and/or Venezuela” doesn’t strike me as a good slogan for the Conservative bus.

The fact remains a senior Downing Street advisor told us they don’t care.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

But it is official, a No. 10 spokesman said so:

Boris Johnson's adviser Dominic Cummings: Tory MPs 'don't care' about poorer people or NHS

So suddenly Cummings is right? He doesn't speak for me, he didn't in 2017 and he's very wrong anyway.i

[Carth]

Originally Posted by jfman

The fact remains a senior Downing Street advisor told us they don’t care.

Look, he's just annoyed that we - the poor and weak - said it first that we don't give a flying digestive about them. They're just trying to even things up

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

So suddenly Cummings is right? He doesn't speak for me, he didn't in 2017 and he's very wrong anyway.i

A broken clock is right twice a day.

I don’t have to agree with him all the time, I can do it on an issue by issue basis and a man of his political expertise, especially observing and analysing gameplans, is certainly worth listening to.

What he has done though is distracted the poor, got them annoyed about other stuff, and some will vote for his employer. Hats off to him, that’s skill.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

Edit: oh dear Uncle Rupert isn’t happy. Sunday Times tomorrow:

Nine Russian businessmen who gave money to the Conservative party are named in a secret intelligence report on the threats posed to UK democracy which was suppressed last week by Downing Street.

Indeed. Shocking anti-patriotic behaviour.

Some Russian donors are personally close to the prime minister, including Alexander Temerko, who had close links to the Kremlin’s defence industry, and who has spoken warmly of his “friend” Boris Johnson. He has donated over £1.2m to the Tories over the past 7 years.
..Britain’s intel agencies are understood to be “furious” at the failure to publish as all necessary steps to protect national security have been taken.

https://twitter.com/TomJHarper

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jfman

Corbyn aides are meeting with Czech spies again lads. I can’t work out if that puts him on the same side as Trump/Putin/Farage or not.

When this garbage gets peddled you know the media oligarchs are terrified.

Edit: oh dear Uncle Rupert isn’t happy. Sunday Times tomorrow:

Nine Russian businessmen who gave money to the Conservative party are named in a secret intelligence report on the threats posed to UK democracy which was suppressed last week by Downing Street.

Not so secret report then.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Indeed. Shocking anti-patriotic behaviour.


https://twitter.com/TomJHarper

As National security has been protected why publish?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by jfman

There’s no evidence for that statement at all. That’s just the usual BS bingo card along with anti-Semitism that the Tories wheel out. “We’re better than Greece and/or Venezuela” doesn’t strike me as a good slogan for the Conservative bus.

The fact remains a senior Downing Street advisor told us they don’t care.

It's a matter of who and what you focus on. If you focus on things like price controls, as in Venezuela, any planned gains are more than wiped out by what should've been the wider concerns and impact. Being free and easy with money, whether from borrowing or from oil resources, rarely works out well. Our economy is in a far, far better state than Venezuela or Greece, unless and until Corbyn gets in.

Link

The South American country has been caught in a downward spiral for years with growing political discontent further fuelled by skyrocketing hyperinflation, power cuts and shortages of food and medicine.
About four million Venezuelans have left the country in recent years.

...
But the socialist polices brought in which aimed to help the poor backfired. Take price controls, for example. They were introduced by President Chávez to make basic goods more affordable to the poor by capping the price of flour, cooking oil and toiletries.
But this meant that the few Venezuelan businesses producing these items no longer found it profitable to make them.
Critics also blame the foreign currency controls brought in by President Chávez in 2003 for a flourishing black market in dollars.

All that in a country that should be rich from oil revenues. If the government had been prepared to subsidise the producers in some way, it might have not turned out so disastrous. The UK effectively does a simliar thing by having a zero VAT rate.