Coronavirus (OLD)

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Schuessler Combination H keeps my Hayfever at bay. Has done for 30 years+. No idea whether they help keep CV away.

I misread that as “Preparation H"

That would clear your sinuses...

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

That's entirely the point. As Opposition leader, all he can do right now is criticise in the hope he'll be PM in 2024.

On the other hand, his party represents millions of voters. There is a case to be made, if it's not happening already, for COBRA to include the Opposition Leader & Shadow Health Minister.

A good leader of the opposition would be holding the government to account in a constructive way and point to practical alternative approaches to problems where there was disagreement.

Any idiot can sit there criticising.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

A good leader of the opposition would be holding the government to account in a constructive way and point to practical alternative approaches to problems where there was disagreement.

Any idiot can sit there criticising.

Sir Keir is doing the former successfully whilst Jeremy Corbyn struggled with the latter.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Sir Keir is doing the former successfully whilst Jeremy Corbyn struggled with the latter.

I dont know about that, he did quite well at being an idiot.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Paul

Lockdown effects could be causing hayfever
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...kdown-22118071

I can vouch for this, mine has been dreadful the last 2/3 weeks, often overpowering my tablets.

I’m not sure let’s lift the lockdown and disproportionately put at risk BAME people because white, middle class people are having worse hayfever is something that’s likely to fly.

I could be wrong though, and if there’s a government to put a monetary value one it then it would be this one.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jfman

I’m not sure let’s lift the lockdown and disproportionately put at risk BAME people because white, middle class people are having worse hayfever is something that’s likely to fly.

I could be wrong though, and if there’s a government to put a monetary value one it then it would be this one.

A mischievous comment of low value.

Originally Posted by jfman

I’m not sure let’s lift the lockdown and disproportionately put at risk BAME people because white, middle class people are having worse hayfever is something that’s likely to fly.

WTF are you talking about.
I never suggested any such thing.
... and you wonder why you get banned from topics.
You're treading on thin ice if you start trolling with such stupidity.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by jfman

I’m not sure let’s lift the lockdown and disproportionately put at risk BAME people because white, middle class people are having worse hayfever is something that’s likely to fly.

I could be wrong though, and if there’s a government to put a monetary value one it then it would be this one.

tbh i think they've privately accepted there will be a lot more deaths from Covid, however the economy is now coming first. As long as the NHS doesn't get overwhelmed. It might make economic sense as long as its not one of your own family, or you now think you're immune...

Next winter will be the issue if there's no vaccine, and the usual increased admissions due to flu etc. The time to prepare for that is now, not wait for it. There should be increased taxes on those that can more than afford to pay. But will they do the right thing or just wait for events again?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

tbh i think they've privately accepted there will be a lot more deaths from Covid, however the economy is now coming first. As long as the NHS doesn't get overwhelmed. It might make economic sense as long as its not one of your own family, or you now think you're immune...

Next winter will be the issue if there's no vaccine, and the usual increased admissions due to flu etc. The time to prepare for that is now, not wait for it. There should be increased taxes on those that can more than afford to pay. But will they do the right thing or just wait for events again?

Next winter will be the issue if there's no vaccine, and the usual increased admissions due to flu etc. The time to prepare for that is now, not wait for it.

Ah - something sensible.

There should be increased taxes on those that can more than afford to pay. But will they do the right thing or just wait for events again?

Oh- not the Nightingale Hospitals, but more taxes. What a let down.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Ah - something sensible.



Oh- not the Nightingale Hospitals, but more taxes. What a let down.

How do you expect to pay for it then old chap ? They'll get if from you one way or another

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

How do you expect to pay for it then old chap ? They'll get if from you one way or another

Crowdfunding? every bugger else is doing it

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Carth

Crowdfunding? every bugger else is doing it

Possibly, if we could force Capt Tom to walk round his garden another 2,000,000 times that would help......

Borrowing seems to be the in thing, all very well when interest rates are low, but it's going cost the country a heck of a lot more in the long run. Very socialist too.

I don't think people have realised the economic impact yet or that many of those furloughed won't have a job to go back to.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

How do you expect to pay for it then old chap ? They'll get if from you one way or another

According to my understanding, the Chancellor intends treating the debt and subsequent investment as a sort of lend-lease debt; something to be repaid over 50 or 60 years. In order to do this, tax rises, if any, would only need to be moderate or low (assuming no efficiencies can replace tax rises).

Anyway, what's your eal point? Knock the Tories, I'm sure.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

According to my understanding, [B]the Chancellor intends treating the debt and subsequent investment as a sort of lend-lease debt; something to be repaid over 50 or 60 years. In order to do this, tax rises, if any, would only need to be moderate or low (assuming no efficiencies can replace tax rises).

Anyway, what's your eal point? Knock the Tories, I'm sure.

So yes , borrowing. ie. we pay back a lot more than we borrow over 50 to 60 years.... i.e. let the next generation deal with it (again), along with climate change and all the other crap we've bequeathed....

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

So yes , borrowing. ie. we pay back a lot more than we borrow over 50 to 60 years.... i.e. let the next generation deal with it (again), along with climate change and all the other crap we've bequeathed....

That's a very shallow response.

CV arguable posed an existential threat, at least to some degree - hence the borrowing so that society didn't fold like it is doing in the USA. Your stance is destructive and offers no solution.