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Old 21-12-2023, 19:10   #2461
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Negative to zero tonite--- all night
If someone is with Octopus and has a smart meter isn't there a huge waiting list for their Agile and Tracker tariffs?
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Old 21-12-2023, 19:27   #2462
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If someone is with Octopus and has a smart meter isn't there a huge waiting list for their Agile and Tracker tariffs?
Agile has no waiting list ---it averages 17p per kwh (Surrey) ----if you avoid using it 4-7pm, then it costs 15p per kwh (Surrey).

And if you are bothered to do all your washing/dishwashing/drying at negative/zero times, you save much more... but it is annoying, annoying very annoying... even with programming etc

I am not sure whether there is a waiting list for the gas tracker. The gas prices have plummeted recently, 3.8p today (Surrey)
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Old 21-12-2023, 20:27   #2463
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Agile has no waiting list ---it averages 17p per kwh (Surrey) ----if you avoid using it 4-7pm, then it costs 15p per kwh (Surrey).

And if you are bothered to do all your washing/dishwashing/drying at negative/zero times, you save much more... but it is annoying, annoying very annoying... even with programming etc

I am not sure whether there is a waiting list for the gas tracker. The gas prices have plummeted recently, 3.8p today (Surrey)
I am thinking of moving our Gas to Tracker (if possible), would you recommend this tariff?
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Old 21-12-2023, 21:12   #2464
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Agile has no waiting list ---it averages 17p per kwh (Surrey) ----if you avoid using it 4-7pm, then it costs 15p per kwh (Surrey).

And if you are bothered to do all your washing/dishwashing/drying at negative/zero times, you save much more... but it is annoying, annoying very annoying... even with programming etc

I am not sure whether there is a waiting list for the gas tracker. The gas prices have plummeted recently, 3.8p today (Surrey)
Whatís the penalty if you do use leccy between 4&7pm though (Rutland)?

Itís pretty difficult to avoid, especially at this time of year (Ceredigion).
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Old 22-12-2023, 11:45   #2465
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Whatís the penalty if you do use leccy between 4&7pm though (Rutland)?

Itís pretty difficult to avoid, especially at this time of year (Ceredigion).
There is no penalty per se, you just try and remember to avoid running electricity intensive tasks during the peak cost hours. For example, if you have a dishwasher with a timer function, you just set it for X hours time instead of turning it on straight away.

However saying this, remember you will have a 24x7 cost of running the house so all of this will, on average, cost you less which helps to offset any higher costs during peak periods.

Here's some screenshots of the Octopus Watch app for the last couple of weeks. You can see the (few) days where it was colder and there was no wind but these are offset by the many more days when the Agile pricing is cheaper.

leccy1.jpg leccy2.jpg
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Whatís the penalty if you do use leccy between 4&7pm though (Rutland)?

Itís pretty difficult to avoid, especially at this time of year (Ceredigion).
Specifically, why Rutland?
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Specifically, why Rutland?
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Old 23-12-2023, 05:44   #2468
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I am thinking of moving our Gas to Tracker (if possible), would you recommend this tariff?
Yes, I do. I will never pay 7p for gas. Since January it ranged 2.5p-5.1p (Surrey)

Why pay more? It is the same gas that everybody else uses

Also, we had 3 days that gas was free (zero) (surrey). No idea why. Gas is never negatively priced. But what do you do with free gas? Burn your house for free?

The gas price is announced around 10pm every day. But you can guess it from

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cxwdwz5d8gxt

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Re: The energy crisis

What crisis?


electricity is free or negative from 10pm tonight until 4pm tomorrow (surrey). we will not enjoy the weekend, we will wash and dry everything, even the bloody cat!
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Re: The energy crisis

Wasn't there a time when they were promising that electricity would be so cheap it wouldn't be worth charging for it? What happened to those halcyon optimistic days?

Mind you, what the hell happened to the last 58 years? It seems only yesterday I was watching Apollo 11 live on TV!
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Is there any cap on the amount of electricity you can use during these negative periods, apart from the physical limit of a domestic supply?
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Is there any cap on the amount of electricity you can use during these negative periods, apart from the physical limit of a domestic supply?
I presume it works on demand, so the more is used, the less time its negative.
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We are the same. We build up credit during the warmer months to have it whittled away during the colder times.

Scottish Power recently tried to drop our DD by half, but I did the calculations, and saw we would have to pay more than we pay now to clear the debt that would cause.
I told one of their operators NOT to change the DD. I've just had a bill up to the tariff change on 1st January. They changed the DD in mid-December after I had called them!

And now no-one wants to reply to my calls.

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I told one of their operators NOT to change the DD. I've just had a bill up to the tariff change on 1st January. They changed the DD in mid-December after I had called them!

And now no-one wants to reply to my calls.

Can't you change the DD online? If not that's ridiculous in this day and age.
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