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djfunkdup · 10-12-2018, 13:07

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Originally Posted by jfman

Yet the pound collapsed in 2016 and manufacturing is stalling?

It’s also only a sound economic theory if you have a significant manufacturing industry, and a tariff free market to sell into.

Is the UK the 5th largest economy in the world ?

An obvious way to convert this is to use market exchange rates—like those you use when going on holiday—to convert local currencies into dollars. Using this method, the size of the UK economy in 2016 was $2,629 billion . Doing the same for the rest of the world allows us to rank the size of all economies. This league table is shown below, with the UK the world’s 5th biggest economy on this measure, just ahead of France but behind Germany, Japan, China and the US.

https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-worl...rgest-economy/

Still not doing too bad thanks

denphone · 10-12-2018, 13:09

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Originally Posted by jfman

I’m sure your man down the pub like Farage will have made something out of it. He usually does.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...beat-the-crash

Of course he will as he will still be receiving his taxpayer-funded EU pension after Brexit.

jfman · 10-12-2018, 13:20

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Originally Posted by djfunkdup

Is the UK the 5th largest economy in the world ?

An obvious way to convert this is to use market exchange rates—like those you use when going on holiday—to convert local currencies into dollars. Using this method, the size of the UK economy in 2016 was $2,629 billion . Doing the same for the rest of the world allows us to rank the size of all economies. This league table is shown below, with the UK the world’s 5th biggest economy on this measure, just ahead of France but behind Germany, Japan, China and the US.

https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-worl...rgest-economy/

Still not doing too bad thanks

That link doesn’t demonstrate that the 2016 collapse of the pound has contributed to increased GDP in actual pounds sterling, you know the currency we are fighting to keep by leaving the demonic EU.

djfunkdup · 10-12-2018, 13:35

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Originally Posted by jfman

That link doesn’t demonstrate that the 2016 collapse of the pound has contributed to increased GDP in actual pounds sterling, you know the currency we are fighting to keep by leaving the demonic EU.

Sorry Dear we are having an extended lunch since it's Xmass. There will be a delay and the Brexit thread will resume at 4PM

denphone · 10-12-2018, 13:40

This is from James Duddridge.

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James Duddridge MP
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@JamesDuddridge

The PM does not get to pull a vote. The House will have to vote to pull a vote. I will oppose. We need to see this deal off once and for all.

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And ITV’s Paul Brand has been picking up the same message from Tory Brexiters like Andrea Jenkyns and Steve Baker.

**Hugh** · 10-12-2018, 13:41

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Originally Posted by djfunkdup

Is the UK the 5th largest economy in the world ?

An obvious way to convert this is to use market exchange rates—like those you use when going on holiday—to convert local currencies into dollars. Using this method, the size of the UK economy in 2016 was $2,629 billion . Doing the same for the rest of the world allows us to rank the size of all economies. This league table is shown below, with the UK the world’s 5th biggest economy on this measure, just ahead of France but behind Germany, Japan, China and the US.

https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-worl...rgest-economy/

Still not doing too bad thanks

6th now - we dropped mid 2017, just after that article was published.

jfman · 10-12-2018, 13:42

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Originally Posted by djfunkdup

Sorry Dear we are having an extended lunch since it's Xmass. There will be a delay and the Brexit thread will resume at 4PM

Stop calling me dear, it’s patronising and disrespectful.

Do hurry back, I’m not sure the thread will cope without your insight into the legislative process.

djfunkdup · 10-12-2018, 13:45

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Originally Posted by jfman

Stop calling me dear, it’s patronising and disrespectful.

Do hurry back, I’m not sure the thread will cope without your insight into the legislative process.

Oh sorry i thought i saw someone call you Shirley .. My mistake Mate

jfman · 10-12-2018, 13:58

Entertainingly there’s now an argument whether Theresa May can actually delay the vote, or whether that would rely on winning a vote to delay.

Gavin78 · 10-12-2018, 14:11

I think they have the cast of spitting image making decisions at the min

denphone · 10-12-2018, 14:16

From the Telegraph.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ye-leadership/

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PM told Cabinet Tories would suffer a 'notable' loss if they pressed ahead with vote on her deal.

She said 'risks are too great' and she is going back to Brussels to secure 'legally-binding assurance' we won't be trapped in backstop indefinitely

Gavin78 · 10-12-2018, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Hugh

A photo from yesterday’s march in London.

And there were shouts of “string them up” and “off with their heads” as UKIP’s leader criticised the government in address to the pro-Brexit march.

I don’t hear Remainers saying things like ‘traitors’ and ‘enemies of the state’...

Thats because they are not carrying out what we asked for. The remain can't say stuff like that because there was a vote and the vote was leave not remain.

If the vote had gone remain yet the Gov decided to leave anyway how well do you think that would have gone down?

I really don't understand what those on the remain side don't get we asked to leave the EU it is pretty simple. It's been repeated so many times on this thread you could do a PHD on it.

Most leavers that I have seen across social media all say the same thing. We leave then broker a deal with the EU.

As it stands they hold all the cards, we have a remain PM who for some reason isn't listening to what the leavers want, her own party want and is just carrying on doing her own thing.

The only sorry I feel for May at the min is the vultures from all sides are waiting to take a piece out of her.

**Damien** · 10-12-2018, 14:24

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Originally Posted by Gavin78

I really don't understand what those on the remain side don't get we asked to leave the EU it is pretty simple. It's been repeated so many times on this thread you could do a PHD on it.

Two possibilities I guess:

The people on this thread are smarter and more intelligent than the army of diplomats, politicians and the civil service.
It might be harder to actually do the work on this issue than people on this thread expect.

Also remember all the people talking on here are not the ones accountable to the public if no deal doesn't go well. It's one thing to state something on the internet, it's another to be responsible for the welfare, jobs and future of 66 million people.

Sephiroth · 10-12-2018, 14:27

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Originally Posted by denphone

Of course he will as he will still be receiving his taxpayer-funded EU pension after Brexit.

Farage has been an MEP for 19 years and is entitled to his pension. Sneering at him for that reason lessens your stature.

jfman · 10-12-2018, 14:29

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Farage has been an MEP for 29 years and is entitled to his pension. Sneering at him for that reason lessens your stature.

Nobody is sneering at him, just noting that economically he will be relatively unaffected by the consequences of a leave vote.