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jfman · 12-02-2019, 22:23

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...r-a-long-delay

It’s going to be a long 45 days.

Angua · 12-02-2019, 23:15

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Originally Posted by jfman

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...r-a-long-delay

It’s going to be a long 45 days.

May's arrogance in assuming the EU would even sanction a long delay is bizarre. All this just to stop some Tories losing council seats.

1andrew1 · 13-02-2019, 00:11

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May's arrogance in assuming the EU would even sanction a long delay is bizarre. All this just to stop some Tories losing council seats.

I think the EU would probably sanction it. It's less disruptive to them, they'll get a financial contribution and it increases the chances - albeit only slightly - of the UK never leaving. And EU companies' investments in the UK like Airbus and BMW won't be marked down in value.
Question is would the UK Parliament vote for an extension?

Angua · 13-02-2019, 06:52

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think the EU would probably sanction it. It's less disruptive to them, they'll get a financial contribution and it increases the chances - albeit only slightly - of the UK never leaving. And EU companies' investments in the UK like Airbus and BMW won't be marked down in value.
Question is would the UK Parliament vote for an extension?

Why? They have already stated they have no wish to extend A50 beyond early June due to the EU elections. They need to know we wish to remain part of the EU to continue beyond June, or all they will get is a load of anti EU politicians from the UK disrupting things.

Instead, the rumblings from Scotland & NI are getting louder towards breaking away from England & Wales.

**Damien** · 13-02-2019, 12:20

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...road-kc38hn3mr

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Ford has become the latest carmaker to sound the alarm over Brexit, saying that it is stepping up preparations to move production out of Britain.

The business, which has 13,000 staff in the UK, told the prime minister on a private call with business leaders that it was preparing alternative sites abroad.

ianch99 · 13-02-2019, 12:50

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...road-kc38hn3mr

How is this not Project Fear? Serious question. For those who want Brexit at all costs, this will mean nothing to them and for those who have said this all along, you just add it to the pile.

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Originally Posted by Angua

Why? They have already stated they have no wish to extend A50 beyond early June due to the EU elections. They need to know we wish to remain part of the EU to continue beyond June, or all they will get is a load of anti EU politicians from the UK disrupting things.

Instead, the rumblings from Scotland & NI are getting louder towards breaking away from England & Wales.

A number of people have said that Brexit can lead to parts of the Union breaking away.

Sinn Fean seem to think that it is a good time to crawl out from what cave they have been hiding in to get on the Brexit bandwagon:

https://www.derrynow.com/news/sinn-f...nane-td/267780

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“Finally, the people of the north must be given a say in their own future – either it is with an isolated and inward–looking Britain or it is with a reunified Ireland. Brexit puts a border poll – a referendum on Irish unity – firmly on the agenda.

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Looks like the "narrative" that the Tories plain messed up the ferry contract has some validity:

Government sued over no-deal ferry contracts

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The government is being sued for its decision to charter firms to run extra ferries, including one with no ships, in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

Channel Tunnel operator Eurotunnel, said the contracts, revealed after Christmas, were decided in a "secretive and flawed procurement process".

The move comes days after Seaborne, one of the firms chosen, had its contract axed after its funding fell through.

nomadking · 13-02-2019, 13:07

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...road-kc38hn3mr

They were talking about doing that around 40 years ago.

papa smurf · 13-02-2019, 13:13

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They were talking about doing that around 40 years ago.

Well they've got 44 days to get it done before brexit.

djfunkdup · 13-02-2019, 13:54

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Well they've got 44 days to get it done before brexit.

If they work weekends it's 44 yea ,Otherwise its 33 working days until Brexit

jonbxx · 13-02-2019, 15:45

Good exclusive from the Super Soaraway Sun with a slide from DfIT on the state of play for trade deals signed and need to be signed before the end of March - https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/stat...45062882942976

**Hugh** · 13-02-2019, 16:35

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8777766.html

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Brexit: Government admits it has 'run out of time' to find ships to bring emergency supplies after no-deal

Officials have admitted they have “run out of time” to find ships to bring emergency supplies after a no-deal Brexit, following the Seaborne Freight fiasco.

No further “large amount of further additional capacity” will be available across the Channel before the end of March, MPs were told – by either sea or rail.

The admission follows the embarrassment of the cancelled contract handed to Seaborne – a firm with no ships – which has sparked calls for Chris Grayling, the transport secretary, to be sacked.

“It would not be possible to complete procurement and make it operational for 29 March,” the department for transport’s director general admitted.

1andrew1 · 13-02-2019, 20:12

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Originally Posted by ianch99

How is this not Project Fear? Serious question. For those who want Brexit at all costs, this will mean nothing to them and for those who have said this all along, you just add it to the pile.

I suspect that quite a few of those who want it at all costs are not very economically active (pensioners/between jobs/very low-paid jobs whom it can't get any worse for) or are well-off speculators who will cleverly use it to make a killing.

Carth · 13-02-2019, 22:04

Ford have been cutting back for years, much of it bugger all to do with Brexit.

They used to make all JLR engines until JLR built their own factories to produce their own engines.

As with other motor companies, they also see Diesel engines as a lost cause now too, electric engines are all the rage . . not sure where those are produced . . Romania?

1andrew1 · 13-02-2019, 22:15

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Originally Posted by Carth

Ford have been cutting back for years, much of it bugger all to do with Brexit.

They used to make all JLR engines until JLR built their own factories to produce their own engines.

As with other motor companies, they also see Diesel engines as a lost cause now too, electric engines are all the rage . . not sure where those are produced . . Romania?

Agreed they've downsized over the years and have lost the JLR contract.
The latest announcement is Brexit-related though and seems to be a statement of intent in the case of no deal.

Angua · 14-02-2019, 07:27

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Agreed they've downsized over the years and have lost the JLR contract.
The latest announcement is Brexit-related though and seems to be a statement of intent in the case of no deal.

Who can blame them. Pointless producing more than the local market needs.

GDP on manufactured goods will suffer reduced exports.