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Old 28-11-2020, 11:44   #781
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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I'm wondering if Richard has read 1984? Just how far does he want Big Brother to go in restricting freedoms? There are places like China and North Korea that heavily restrict their populace access to the internet as it is. That's the danger I want to avoid in my own country. I welcome the freedoms of the internet even if it means that there is material available that I find disgusting or offensive. Also who get's to be arbiter of what's allowed and what's not? Remember that saying of baby and bathwater? it applies to the freedoms of the internet.
I have a distaste of those that constantly tell other what they can and cannot do. I am old enough and ugly enough to make my own mind up. Your right that the internet is being changed by the offended because they think we are offended. It got nothing to do with them if i am offended or not and they need to wind there necks in and go find a life of there own and stop trying to control mine.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

It's an interesting subject. I suppose the politicians have to balance the right to free speech against the right for others not to have to be upset or extremely offended by what others say. Isn't there a saying that goes along the lines of "I may disagree with what you say, but i'll defend your right to say it".

Matthew Wright is on record, despite being 'politically correct', as saying that the more he thinks about it, the more he thinks people should have the right to say whatever they want to.

There is also the argument that, if you suppress views, the people who want to say them resent the fact that they are prevented from saying them and their views cannot be challenged and can't be persuaded to change them by it being debated. Their views will just fester inside them.

For example, in Germany I believe it is illegal to deny that the holocaust ever took place.

A good example of this approach is that, in the 60's, paedophiles argued for the right of adults to have sex with children and even got some respected organisations to support them (I think one was Amnesty International, who have since said that they regret this).

But where do you draw the line on complete freedom of speech? Should it be legal for someone to say to someone with a facial disfigurement that they look frightening or that they disgust them? Which is more important, the right for someone to say this, or a person with a disfigurement not to have the effects of their misfortune further upsetting them?

There was once a forum that allowed complete freedom of speech, but it got closed down as their web hosting company etc withdrew support.

In fact, if we have freedom of speech, it could be argued that what people say should never be moderated.

Like I say, it's a difficult balancing act for Parliament.

I suppose it depends on what is said and why It's being said. There is a difference between someone shouting insults against black, gay etc people in a deliberate attempt to upset them and a proper adult debate to discuss why some people don't agree with people of colour being in the UK or homosexual acts.

I do agree that this 'woke' culture is going too far and is counter productive in many ways and is being used by some to control people who don't share their views.

Going back to the Fantasy Football issue, I do still agree with the offensive team names being removed as this doesn't stimulate a proper adult debate and merely offends victims of child sex abuse, black/gay people, families affected by the holocaust etc.

Even if people are only exposed to it when looking for it, the fact remains that these offensive terms serve no useful purpose, so shouldn't be allowed as they needlessly upset people.

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Old 28-11-2020, 13:53   #783
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

I'll tell you what offends me . . .

People who insist that the words to "baa baa black sheep" have racist overtones and should be changed.

The stupidity that I can have a black cat, but not a black neighbour.

'Non white' footballers moaning that they're 'under represented' as managers, when in reality most who've been given the opportunity are bloody useless. Same goes for musicians saying they don't get recognition . . if you have talent you'll get it, if not you just aren't good enough.

Those who insist everything and everyone has to be placed accurately into it's own special box in life, and make silly rules to ensure it happens.

oh, and 'coloured' people with 27 previous claiming they're targeted by police
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Old 28-11-2020, 14:04   #784
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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I'll tell you what offends me . . .

People who insist that the words to "baa baa black sheep" have racist overtones and should be changed.

The stupidity that I can have a black cat, but not a black neighbour.

'Non white' footballers moaning that they're 'under represented' as managers, when in reality most who've been given the opportunity are bloody useless. Same goes for musicians saying they don't get recognition . . if you have talent you'll get it, if not you just aren't good enough.

Those who insist everything and everyone has to be placed accurately into it's own special box in life, and make silly rules to ensure it happens.

oh, and 'coloured' people with 27 previous claiming they're targeted by police
Your first two statements are not congruent with reality...

re your first comment - wiki states [quote] it was alleged in the popular press, it was seen as racially dubious. This was based only on a rewriting of the rhyme in one private nursery as an exercise for the children there and not on any local government policy.[10] A similar controversy emerged in 1999 when reservations about the rhyme were submitted to Birmingham City Council by a working group on racism in children's resources, which were never approved or implemented.[11] Two private nurseries in Oxfordshire in 2006 altered the song to "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep", with black being replaced with a variety of other adjectives, like "happy, sad, hopping" and "pink".[12] Commentators have asserted that these controversies have been exaggerated or distorted by some elements of the press as part of a more general campaign against political correctness.[quote]

"It was alleged in the popular press" - not like the Daily Mail, Express, and the Sun to make stuff up, is it?

re your second statement - two of my grandchildren are mixed heritage, and their father's side of the family don't have a problem with being identified as "black" (being from Afro-Caribbean background).
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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I have a distaste of those that constantly tell other what they can and cannot do. I am old enough and ugly enough to make my own mind up. Your right that the internet is being changed by the offended because they think we are offended. It got nothing to do with them if i am offended or not and they need to wind there necks in and go find a life of there own and stop trying to control mine.
Those sorts need watching, if they're the loudest or often only voice in the room their opinions are given a lot more respect and credibility than they deserve
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

I also remember all the furore about Enid Blyton's Noddy books and her inclusion of the golliwog in the stories. The removal of said books from some libraries.. She was accused of also being sexist??? I never noticed when I was reading them. It was ridiculous because she was born in a different age to the one that began to emerge in the 70s. Anyone of any sense would have allowed children to read them and then ask the child what they thought and address the issues that way.
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I'm wondering if Richard has read 1984? Just how far does he want Big Brother to go in restricting freedoms? There are places like China and North Korea that heavily restrict their populace.
You can add the UK to that list at the moment.
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You can add the UK to that list at the moment.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

Does anyone have any links to reliable sources on the things that they're worried about? So far, at least two forum members are happy to place the UK in the same bracket as North Korea and China.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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You can add the UK to that list at the moment.
Trying to prevent excess deaths and the NHS being overwhelmed ≠ North Korea & China - implying they are the same is pure hyperbole and a million miles from the truth.

Things that happen in North Korea that donít happen in the U.K.

- having a Supreme Leader who, if you question his actions, has you executed
- a One Party State
- complete control of the media
- being sent to prison if you try to access any media/news other than the State media
- state controlled intranet and phone systems (which most of NK canít access)
- 200,000 people in internment camps because they disagreed with the ruling party, where they are starved and tortured
- persecution, arrest and execution of members of underground Christian churches

Yeh, weíre just like North Korea and China...
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Trying to prevent excess deaths and the NHS being overwhelmed ≠ North Korea & China - implying they are the same is pure hyperbole and a million miles from the truth.

Things that happen in North Korea that donít happen in the U.K.

- having a Supreme Leader who, if you question his actions, has you executed
- a One Party State
- complete control of the media
- being sent to prison if you try to access any media/news other than the State media
- state controlled intranet and phone systems (which most of NK canít access)
- 200,000 people in internment camps because they disagreed with the ruling party, where they are starved and tortured
- persecution, arrest and execution of members of underground Christian churches

Yeh, weíre just like North Korea and China...
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Things that happen in North Korea that donít happen in the U.K.

- having a Supreme Leader who, if you question his actions, has you executed
- a One Party State
- complete control of the media
- being sent to prison if you try to access any media/news other than the State media
- state controlled intranet and phone systems (which most of NK canít access)
- 200,000 people in internment camps because they disagreed with the ruling party, where they are starved and tortured
- persecution, arrest and execution of members of underground Christian churches
Crikey, if it wasn't for their worldwide sales of cheap shoddy products, they'd have nothing going for them
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Crikey, if it wasn't for their worldwide sales of cheap shoddy products, they'd have nothing going for them
The British like some other countries seem very keen on continually buying these cheap shoddy products though.
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The British like some other countries seem very keen on continually buying these cheap shoddy products though.
China's the workshop of the World. They make everything from Apple and Huawei downwards, not just bargain basement goods.
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Crikey, if it wasn't for their worldwide sales of cheap shoddy products, they'd have nothing going for them
Pretty sure NK don't export anything of note...
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