11-11-2020, 23:25
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Re: Coronavirus
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The more recent figures are incomplete.
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These figures will be updated at 2pm each day and include confirmed death cases reported at 4pm the previous day. Confirmation of COVID-19 diagnosis, death notification, death certificates and reporting in central figures can take up to several days and the hospitals providing the data are under significant operational pressure. This means that the totals reported at 4pm on each day may not include all deaths that occurred on that day or on recent prior days.
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11-11-2020, 23:49
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#873
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Re: Coronavirus
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The more recent figures are incomplete.
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Ok, I’ll leave it a few days.....,,,
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12-11-2020, 16:19
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Re: Coronavirus
Not to sure how this will work.
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GP practices can store defrosted Covid vaccine in fridges, NHSE suggests
The news comes amid logistical concerns around Pfizer’s vaccine – of which the UK Government has bought 40m doses – requiring ultra-low storage temperatures of below -70C.
However NHS England’s DES specification, published yesterday, only states that practices must have fridge capacity to store vaccine at +2-8C, suggesting they may not have to store the vaccine while it remains frozen.
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https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/cl...land-suggests/
Our GP and his Partner are hard pressed to deal with their current ioad so the idea of their having to administer 975 doses a wwk even if they rope in their part-time practice nurse and, even if it is feasible to store these doses at + 2C to -8C, they would still only have a 5 day shelf life.
On a personal note. A neighbour is currently working 12 hour days down in Rugby installing the neccessary freezer compartments in lorries that will be delivering the vaccines. Purpose built and as far as he is aware they have to cope with temps down to -50 which sounds like the vaccines will have started the defrost cycle before they are even delivered.  ... I hope he is mistaken.
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12-11-2020, 16:38
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Re: Coronavirus
Meanwhile, in Sweden...
https://www.ft.com/content/1e0ac31d-...e-eec9744a4d31
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Country’s public health agency admits its prediction for pandemic second wave appears wrong
Do not judge Sweden until the autumn. That was the message from its state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell in May and through the summer as he argued that Sweden’s initial high death toll from Covid-19 would be followed in the second wave by “a high level of immunity and the number of cases will probably be quite low”.
Now the autumn is here, and hospitalisations from Covid-19 are currently rising faster in Sweden than in any other country in Europe, while in Stockholm — the centre for both the first and second waves in the country — one in every five tests is positive, suggesting the virus is even more widespread than official figures suggest.
“So far Sweden’s strategy has proven to be a dramatic failure,” said Lena Einhorn, a Swedish virologist and prominent critic of its strategy. “Four days ago we had eight times higher cases per capita than Finland and three and a half times more than Norway. They were supposed to have it worse off than us in the autumn because we were going to have immunity.”
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12-11-2020, 17:39
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Re: Coronavirus
It’s all going splendidly.
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12-11-2020, 17:42
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Re: Coronavirus
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A record 33,470 people have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK government's latest daily figure.
It is the highest daily number since mass testing began in the UK, and brings the total number of cases to more than 1.29 million.
...But there is no getting away from the fact the jump in positive cases is worrying.
We've not seen this kind of jump before - it is both 10,000 above Wednesday's figure and the current rolling average.
It's unclear why this is. The government says there was no backlog of tests that were processed which could explain it.
The mass testing in Liverpool is not thought to be feeding into the figure yet.
The number of tests processed has gone up, but that has happened previously without returning such a high number of positive cases.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54908680
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12-11-2020, 17:46
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Re: Coronavirus
It just got real.
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Former boxer Nicola Adams and her Strictly Come Dancing partner Katya Jones have left the BBC contest after Jones tested positive for Covid-19.
A statement said the programme's "protocols" meant the pair would now self-isolate and would not be able to take part in the rest of the series.
They made history as the first same-sex couple to take part in the UK show.
"I'm absolutely devastated my Strictly journey has come to an end so soon," the Olympic gold medallist said.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54919497
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12-11-2020, 22:23
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Re: Coronavirus
Terrible!
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Coronavirus: Safety officials had 'political' pressure to approve PPE
Britain's safety watchdog felt leaned on by the government to make factually incorrect statements about PPE suits bought for NHS staff earlier in the Covid-19 pandemic, the BBC has found.
Emails reveal how the Health and Safety Executive said protective suits, bought by the government in April, had not been tested to the correct standard.
But the emails describe "political" pressure to approve them for use.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54897737
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12-11-2020, 22:37
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Re: Coronavirus
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The firm added that, with the legal challenge looming, it hoped that new tests could be done quickly. This was so that "we and the DHSC can confirm that the product… has been certified and accepted".
The isolation suits were ultimately tested to the required standard, and on 6 August the regulator allowed them to be used for staff treating Covid-19 in hospitals.
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Why is there a problem with avoiding an unnecessary delay?
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12-11-2020, 22:44
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Re: Coronavirus
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Why is there a problem with avoiding an unnecessary delay?
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None whatsover. Not the case here, mind.
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12-11-2020, 22:46
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Re: Coronavirus
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Why is there a problem with avoiding an unnecessary delay?
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What delay? At the time they were being asked to release the suits to the NHS they hadn't been verified as being to the NHS standard. When they were they were then released for use.
What would have happened if they'd been released and then failed the test? There was a 50/50 chance that was the case.
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12-11-2020, 22:56
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Re: Coronavirus
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None whatsover. Not the case here, mind.
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How was it not the case? Waiting months for any testing would've been an unnecessary delay. They didn't fail testing, they just hadn't yet been tested.
When on packaging it says "not subjected to animal testing" (or whatever), it doesn't mean it has never been tested on animals, just that somebody else has tested the same or similar formula. There is no reason to expect there to be a problem with any new product based upon older tested similar products.
When products say tested to X, it might well be perfectly ok to use it when exceeding X, just that their testing only went up to X.
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What delay? At the time they were being asked to release the suits to the NHS they hadn't been verified as being to the NHS standard. When they were they were then released for use.
What would have happened if they'd been released and then failed the test? There was a 50/50 chance that was the case.
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On what basis would they have been likely to fail any test?  Not a complicated design issue.
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12-11-2020, 23:07
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Re: Coronavirus
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I don't know. That's why the certification process exists.
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13-11-2020, 00:11
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Re: Coronavirus
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How was it not the case? Waiting months for any testing would've been an unnecessary delay. They didn't fail testing, they just hadn't yet been tested.
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The Government had two choices - release it untested and label it as such or get it tested. Labelling something as tested when it isn't hasn't been has lots of downsides.
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Need to make sure we don't cut our nose off here to spite our face.
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COVID-19: Pfizer vaccine faces Brexit risk, UK partner warns
The boss of the British company supplying a crucial ingredient of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has warned that avoiding Brexit border disruption will be "a crucial step" in ensuring it is available to millions of people.
Yorkshire-based Croda International has provided a key chemical element of the vaccine to Pfizer in the trial phase, and has won a five-year contract that will see it deliver materials for 1.3 billion doses next year alone, worth around £75m.
Distributing the doses is a huge challenge and, deal or no-deal, the UK will have new customs controls from 1 January.
Questioned at a Downing Street news conference, Business Secretary Alok Sharma repeatedly failed to rule out the prospect of the supply of a vaccine being affected by Brexit border disruption.
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https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...warns-12130837
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