General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018) - Page 178

OLD BOY · 11-11-2018, 18:31

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Originally Posted by jfman

I think you are massively overestimating it. 50% of UK households taking a standalone subscription?

Or receiving it as part of a package?

jfman · 11-11-2018, 18:45

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Or receiving it as part of a package?

But they wouldn’t get the standalone price in a package - they’d get a wholesale price. Almost proving my point there’s little appetite for standalone offerings if they’re relying on existing providers for the vast majority of income/viewers.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So why have you tried to quantify it, then, jfman? What I am saying is that there are different ways of generating income, including wholesale deals, which I suspect will be a widespread practice in the new streaming world.

I’ve never said it won’t be widespread practice, just that the idea of everyone being better off paying £6 here and £8 there for a handful of services as opposed to TV XL or Sky Box Sets is flawed.

We get that you object to Virgin paying tiny amounts of your subscription to third parties for channels you don’t watch.

It’s on the face of it a straightforward argument, a win for everyone, only pay for what you watch. However it ignores the power of platforms to drive down prices.

Horizon · 11-11-2018, 21:35

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Originally Posted by jfman

I think you are massively overestimating it. 50% of UK households taking a standalone subscription?

There will be some who can afford everything and some who can afford nothing, but most of us are somewhere in the middle. So, its all down to what content is available on what streamers at what cost.

If people want to watch the new Star Wars series' and films in the future, they will likely need to take Disney's streamer, as that will be the only place to get that stuff. But, if people simultaneously want the latest Batman films, Harry Potter, James Bond etc and they're all available on separate services, then things get interesting and I agree, there will be a cut off point for most of us.

muppetman11 · 11-11-2018, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Horizon

There will be some who can afford everything and some who can afford nothing, but most of us are somewhere in the middle. So, its all down to what content is available on what streamers at what cost.

If people want to watch the new Star Wars series' and films in the future, they will likely need to take Disney's streamer, as that will be the only place to get that stuff. But, if people simultaneously want the latest Batman films, Harry Potter, James Bond etc and they're all available on separate services, then things get interesting and I agree, there will be a cut off point for most of us.

People can just as easily buy the DVD/Blu Ray or pay to watch on the likes of Sky Store , Virgin Movies , iTunes etc especially for movies.

I watch very little Disney content so the odd one time movie it would save me to do this.

OLD BOY · 12-11-2018, 07:41

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

People can just as easily buy the DVD/Blu Ray or pay to watch on the likes of Sky Store , Virgin Movies , iTunes etc especially for movies.

I watch very little Disney content so the odd one time movie it would save me to do this.

Indeed, if you only watch the occasional film of this nature, a DVD might be a cheaper solution. But if you like that stuff and watch it regularly, a subscription is cheaper.

Incidentally, I picked up some worrying news in John Lewis recently. They have stopped replacing DVD players and recorders that they have in stock as demand is reducing with digital streaming. So it looks like DVD boxes will be going the way of the VHS recorders before much longer.

BenMcr · 12-11-2018, 07:44

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Incidentally, I picked up some worrying news in John Lewis recently. They have stopped replacing DVD players and recorders that they have in stock as demand is reducing with digital streaming. So it looks like DVD boxes will be going the way of the VHS recorders before much longer.

Except they haven't stopped selling Blu-Ray players, which can play DVDs. They've even got a Blu-Ray / PVR combi deck, and some 4K options.

So it's more a clever bit of PR from John Lewis and got them in the news because of it.

OLD BOY · 12-11-2018, 09:29

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Except they haven't stopped selling Blu-Ray players, which can play DVDs. They've even got a Blu-Ray / PVR combi deck, and some 4K options.

So it's more a clever bit of PR from John Lewis and got them in the news because of it.

Thank you - I didn't realise that! Crafty devils.

denphone · 12-11-2018, 10:03

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Except they haven't stopped selling Blu-Ray players, which can play DVDs. They've even got a Blu-Ray / PVR combi deck, and some 4K options.

So it's more a clever bit of PR from John Lewis and got them in the news because of it.

If one looks online one can still get DVD/VHS Combo players.

Chad · 12-11-2018, 23:59

Sky have lost the rights to the Scottish Cup to Premier Sports and the BBC. Premier Sports have taken over as the competitions pay broadcaster after agreeing a 6 year deal starting in January 2019. The BBC remain the free to air broadcaster seeing them broadcasting more live games than ever before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46182485

The deal for the BBC comes hot on the heals of agreeing a 2 year deal to televise 20 Scottish Championship games per year, for 2 years, from next month.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tter_share-top

Mad Max · 13-11-2018, 00:18

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Originally Posted by Chad

Sky have lost the rights to the Scottish Cup to Premier Sports and the BBC. Premier Sports have taken over as the competitions pay broadcaster after agreeing a 6 year deal starting in January 2019. The BBC remain the free to air broadcaster seeing them broadcasting more live games than ever before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46182485

The deal for the BBC comes hot on the heals of agreeing a 2 year deal to televise 20 Scottish Championship games per year, for 2 years, from next month.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tter_share-top

Total farce, the game in Scotland gets sod all compared to even the lowesr English games...

denphone · 13-11-2018, 05:09

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Total farce, the game in Scotland gets sod all compared to even the lowesr English games...

The lower league English clubs don't get that much either as the greatest money-spinner for then is a cup match against the big teams which then gets shown on TV.

alwaysabear · 13-11-2018, 10:56

It would seem that Sky are consolidating their Sports rights. Eg only prepared to spend big on the most popular (viewers) sports.
Hopefully this will allow as in this case terrestrial channels to pick up rights.

ozsat · 13-11-2018, 11:57

I doubt it - it gives the other pay channels more options.

Like Premier Sport now having the Scottish Cup.

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

It would seem that Sky are consolidating their Sports rights. Eg only prepared to spend big on the most popular (viewers) sports.
Hopefully this will allow as in this case terrestrial channels to pick up rights.

Raider999 · 13-11-2018, 18:54

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

It would seem that Sky are consolidating their Sports rights. Eg only prepared to spend big on the most popular (viewers) sports.
Hopefully this will allow as in this case terrestrial channels to pick up rights.

Don't expect anything on the BBC - Wimbledon apart they don't care about sports

alwaysabear · 13-11-2018, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Raider999

Don't expect anything on the BBC - Wimbledon apart they don't care about sports

BBC have FA Cup and now Scottish FA Cup as well as a lot of others sports ,not sure what you mean.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/46191581