03-06-2008, 12:18
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#7891
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by jelv
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Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".
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03-06-2008, 12:25
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#7892
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South Birmingham
Posts: 1,427
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Heed
Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".
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Same result here too.
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03-06-2008, 12:26
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#7893
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 133
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
They've put a video on the page, check out the location:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/phorm/PrivacyLongGen2.flv
It's hosted on an amazon server.
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03-06-2008, 12:30
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#7894
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Inactive
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bedford
Services: VM 10mb, phone
Posts: 52
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Ravenheart
Same result here too.
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Same here too.
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03-06-2008, 12:42
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#7895
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 128
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Heed
Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".
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Looks like they are developing/testing on the live website - fills you with confidence doesn't it!
They should realise that we will spot anything like that by now!
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Do we need to post the following to as many forums as possible?
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To determine if your ISP is participating in Webwise and if so, if it is enabled, you can check using this Webwise link
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03-06-2008, 12:46
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#7896
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Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 231
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
what gets me is they using cookies for opt out so you still going thorough the dam phorm dpi kit.
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03-06-2008, 12:52
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#7897
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: South of the River
Posts: 46
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Heed
Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".
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Same result here - commercial sdsl line
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03-06-2008, 12:55
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#7898
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Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 265
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Wildie
what gets me is they using cookies for opt out so you still going thorough the dam phorm dpi kit.
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And if an occasional Alert comes up on any Web Page that reminds you that Webwise is "on" or "OFF" it proves the Phorm System is still monitoring & "Occasionally setting ads", in particular the AD to tell you Webwise is "OFF"????.
Mentioned in the Video above!
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03-06-2008, 13:01
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#7899
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bristol
Services: Aquiss.net and loving it.
No more Virgin Media, no more Virgin Phone, no more Virgin Mobile.
Posts: 629
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by jelv
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No cookie setting detected here, but it is odd.
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03-06-2008, 13:09
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#7900
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Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 86
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Did anyone notice that in the video the ISP's listed as offering webwise were BT and Talk Talk, no mention of VM?
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03-06-2008, 13:09
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#7901
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 55
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I got webwise is switched On.
No cookies set, which is not surprising as i have webwise cookies blocked.
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03-06-2008, 13:11
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#7902
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 831
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by jelv
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It isn't setting cookies at the moment, just rotating between the various on/off/not enabled pages.
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03-06-2008, 13:20
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#7903
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Services: Virgin - BB,TV,Phone
Sky box - with no sub
Freeview - idtv
Posts: 270
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by jelv
How many ISP's are preparing to participate in the Webwise "trial".
If I go to http://www.webwise.com/privacy/can-choose-NA.html from the office I get a page that says:
You Can Choose
Webwise is currently not enabled by your ISP
If I go to the same page from my home connection I get:
You Can Choose
Webwise is currently: OFF
My ISP is NOT BT, Talk Talk or VM.
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I am with VM and i get presented with:
You Can Choose
Webwise is currently not enabled by your ISP
No cookies set.
However visiting http://www.webwise.com/privacy/opt/out.html sets a cookie as before:
OPTED_OUT
YES
webwise.net/
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3600677760
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privacy/can-choose-on.html and privacy/can-choose-off.html seem to be mirrors of
privacy/opt/in.html and privacy/opt/out.html but the latter have less text.
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03-06-2008, 13:53
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#7904
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 84
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Heed
Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".
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Hi, Yes I am getting exactly the same to!
Dave (thejag)
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03-06-2008, 13:55
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#7905
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Services: Virgin - BB,TV,Phone
Sky box - with no sub
Freeview - idtv
Posts: 270
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
After watching that video, I noted several times the phrase 'webwise never knows where you have been'. Then, further on the video goes on to say 'user 123 has been to travel sites X or Y'. But I thought that 'webwise never knows where you have been'?. How then do you know I have been to website X or Y?
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