VOD : Netflix/Streaming Services

[OLD BOY]

Count me in.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Could this be the start of the big global operators giving Sky a run for their money? Looks like Sky Disney will not last for much longer unless it is going to concentrate on their older stuff.

http://advanced-television.com/2016/...s-this-summer/

Netflix has announced that from September it will be the exclusive US pay-TV home for all Disney, Marvel, Lucasfilm and Pixar movies released from 2016 onwards.

Meaning, it will be the only place to find movies such as Captain America: Civil War, The Jungle Book and the upcoming Star Wars sequels and the Rogue One spin-off prequel.

“The 2016 (Disney) releases will start rolling on in September and we’ll share specific dates/titles closer to their premiere on the service,” Netflix told Variety.

The deal was actually signed three years ago and is reported to have cost Netflix $400 million.

As the deal is just for the US, Sky Movies Disney is not affected. My guess this is a trial and if it pays off for Netflix, they may seek to expand it more widely which of course would threaten Sky Movies Disney. But in the UK, they would face a very strong challenge from Sky.

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Originally Posted by theone2k10

No mate i'm with you and Max on this the EU can just do one, roll on next month i say when we can start the process to leave this stupid state.

Given the choice of 20% European content (which we have anyway) v a cost of £20bn-£40bn a year of leaving the EU then like VM I'm voting to stay put. It's not a perfect organisation by any stretch of the imagination but independent research shows that we will suffer if we leave.
"The highly respected Institute for Fiscal Studies accused the Brexit campaign on Wednesday of peddling “clearly absurd” figures suggesting Britain would save large sums of money if it left the EU.
Rather than saving £350m a week, or £18bn a year, from Brexit, the IFS research suggests a vote to leave would cost £20bn to £40bn a year and require additional austerity, lasting into the next decade, if the government still wanted to eliminate the deficit."
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2858ec6-2...#axzz49WKuUSyj (registration required)

[muppetman11]

Sky signed a deal with disney towards the end of 2015.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...th-Disney.html

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

As the deal is just for the US, Sky Movies Disney is not affected. My guess this is a trial and if it pays off for Netflix, they may seek to expand it more widely which of course would threaten Sky Movies Disney. But in the UK, they would face a very strong challenge from Sky.

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Given the choice of 20% European content (which we have anyway) v a cost of £20bn-£40bn a year of leaving the EU then like VM I'm voting to stay put. It's not a perfect organisation by any stretch of the imagination but independent research shows that we will suffer if we leave.
"The highly respected Institute for Fiscal Studies accused the Brexit campaign on Wednesday of peddling “clearly absurd” figures suggesting Britain would save large sums of money if it left the EU.
Rather than saving £350m a week, or £18bn a year, from Brexit, the IFS research suggests a vote to leave would cost £20bn to £40bn a year and require additional austerity, lasting into the next decade, if the government still wanted to eliminate the deficit."
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2858ec6-2...#axzz49WKuUSyj (registration required)

Lol, you can argue anything depending on which side you are on, both camps have came up with figures to help their cause, industry leaders from some of our top companies say we should quit, others say we should leave, studies by "highly respected" IFS, lol, thats maybe because they want to stay in?? Anyway this is probably in the wrong forum, but to finish I want us out, I want the UK to control its own destiny and make its own decisions, and not to be run by a bunch of looneys in Brussels, but, most of all, I want control of our borders! Brexit for me.....................

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

As the deal is just for the US, Sky Movies Disney is not affected. My guess this is a trial and if it pays off for Netflix, they may seek to expand it more widely which of course would threaten Sky Movies Disney. But in the UK, they would face a very strong challenge from Sky.[COLOR="Silver"]

But it shows how Netflix is thinking. The next round will be very interesting.

Sky have deep pockets, it's true, but the pockets of Netflix will be even deeper in four years' time.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Given the choice of 20% European content (which we have anyway) v a cost of £20bn-£40bn a year of leaving the EU then like VM I'm voting to stay put. It's not a perfect organisation by any stretch of the imagination but independent research shows that we will suffer if we leave.
"The highly respected Institute for Fiscal Studies accused the Brexit campaign on Wednesday of peddling “clearly absurd” figures suggesting Britain would save large sums of money if it left the EU.
Rather than saving £350m a week, or £18bn a year, from Brexit, the IFS research suggests a vote to leave would cost £20bn to £40bn a year and require additional austerity, lasting into the next decade, if the government still wanted to eliminate the deficit."
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2858ec6-2...#axzz49WKuUSyj (registration required)

This should really be limited to video but I have to respond just once to you.

Sorry Andrew, I just don't trust the many economic institutions that have come out in support of the government, or many of the senior politicians supporting staying in. Quite a number of them have been attendees of Bilderberg meetings, where the details of discussions are kept secret. These are discussions between high powered financiers, world leaders, and senior politicians.

Mark Carney (formerly an employee of Goldman Sachs, who have their fingers in a lot of European countries) attended a couple of years prior to being made Governor of the bank of England. Others include... Angela Merkel, Herman Van Rompuy (ex President of EU Council), Jean Claude Juncker, (Present President of the EU Commission), Martin Schultz,( Present President of EU Parliament), David Cameron, George Osbourne, Tony Blair, Ed Balls, Rona Fairhead, (Chair of the BBC Trust), Michael O’Leary of RyanAir, Stuart Rose (ex M & S, and BSE Chairman), Bill Clinton, Barak Obama and many more.

Not difficult to see what they have in common, is it?

If Bilderberg would release full un-edited minutes, I might listen to these people.

The Bilderberg group are at heart globalists, who see a United States of Europe as a stepping stone in their plan.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

But it shows how Netflix is thinking. The next round will be very interesting.

Sky have deep pockets, it's true, but the pockets of Netflix will be even deeper in four years' time.

Netflix can think how it wants but it's Disney what matter , it appears they are already questioning licensing content to third party streaming services going forward.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Netflix can think how it wants but it's Disney what matter , it appears they are already questioning licensing content to third party streaming services going forward.

True, Disney may decide to set up their own on demand site. Time will tell.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

True, Disney may decide to set up their own on demand site. Time will tell.

They already have their own streaming service.

Whilst media companies have been quick to sell its content to third party streaming services some are now starting to realise that this has come at a cost to its traditional core offering.

[Horizon]

... I think Hulu is a test bed for Disney, Comcast and Fox. They want to see who watches what and at what times. Then at some time in the future, they may decide to launch their own streaming services, or still collaborate on Hulu and with others like Netflix.

The thing about Netflix that goes over most people's heads, is their value is not in their original series', that's still in its infancy. Or its interface, easily replicated by others. But in the information it gathers on viewing habits. That is very valuable. Perhaps Disney might buy them??

The big media companies don't know which way to jump. Neflix and Amazon are hurting not just the main US tv networks, but the pay tv channels too. They're frightened to put all their eggs in one on demand basket at the expense of their traditional and still very profitable broadcast and pay tv channels business'.

I'm watching what Disney does closely as well. They have the biggest film franchisee in history and you can bet they'll want to make as much dosh out of the "force" as they can.

[Chad]

NOW TV with 6 months Entertainment pass only £19.95 for 6 months at Argos:

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/4590602.htm

Buy 2 and that's SKY Atlantic, and various SKY Atlantic boxsets, for a whole year for less than £40.00. Pretty good deal. Works out at £3.32 per month.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

They already have their own streaming service.

Whilst media companies have been quick to sell its content to third party streaming services some are now starting to realise that this has come at a cost to its traditional core offering.

Yes, I think they're testing the water with their DisneyLife service. If Disney can make more money selling its content directly then it will. It could work well for Disney as its content spans books and music as well as films and TV. Disney has some strong film franchises but does it - or any one studio - have enough for its own stand-alone film-streaming service. I'm not so sure.

[toady]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Yes, I think they're testing the water with their DisneyLife service. If Disney can make more money selling its content directly then it will. It could work well for Disney as its content spans books and music as well as films and TV. Disney has some strong film franchises but does it - or any one studio - have enough for its own stand-alone film-streaming service. I'm not so sure.

This is bad news for consumers, I already subscribe to three streaming services, I couldn't afford a forth unless I left one of the others, so less content for me to watch

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Lol, you can argue anything depending on which side you are on,

Without veering off topic too much, you misunderstand. IFS is independent and neutral. This was acknowledged today by Economists for Brexit so this is not one side's propaganda.

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Originally Posted by toady

This is bad news for consumers, I already subscribe to three streaming services, I couldn't afford a forth unless I left one of the others, so less content for me to watch

The fragmentation of cable packages is potentially bad news for some consumers. Traditional cable packages are relatively cheap per channel as they work on the basis that some people watch some channels and some people watch other channels but no one watches all the channels all the time. Some people understandably misunderstand how the system works and think they're paying for channels they don't watch. For example, BT in the XL pack cost VM about £3.50 per subscriber but it costs a lot more than this to subscribe to the channel itself.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Yes, I think they're testing the water with their DisneyLife service. If Disney can make more money selling its content directly then it will. It could work well for Disney as its content spans books and music as well as films and TV. Disney has some strong film franchises but does it - or any one studio - have enough for its own stand-alone film-streaming service. I'm not so sure.

Oooh, totally unaware of this. Most interesting. Thought you were talking about Hulu. Wonder what Sky thinks of it?

As for there being enough content, if you were to include all ABC produced shows, including new ones and including new films which Sky has the rights for at the moment, absolutely. But that's not what will be on this service, so I'm not sure how attractive it would be without all the latest stuff.