Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[Derek]

Everything is possible but are people willing to gamble the futures of themselves and their children on a possibility?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Derek

Everything is possible but are people willing to gamble the futures of themselves and their children on a possibility?

That's very much the question Derek. It's a tough call whatever way you look at it but, to a certain extent, every decision we make or are subjected to involves a risk / gamble of some sort.

Any decent Risk Assessment takes into consideration the severity of the Impact of the risk and the Likelyhood of the risk occurring - it would be unusual (actually, pointless) in business to assess the risk after the event.

Yet this is what it would appear to be happening in the Referendum.....

[Derek]

Once again the SNP are hiding away potentially bad news about how their flagship policies might be total nonsense.

http://scottishpol.blogspot.co.uk/20...r-you.html?m=1

SNP ministers have finally admitted carrying out research into their flagship childcare policy - but say it would be against “the public interest” to publish it.

The confirmation, after months of official denials, was secured through a freedom of information (FoI) enquiry.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Derek

Once again the SNP are hiding away potentially bad news about how their flagship policies might be total nonsense.

http://scottishpol.blogspot.co.uk/20...r-you.html?m=1

The difficulty with dismissing the policy because it is considered that the public interest is best served by non-disclosure of elements thereof, as I see it, is that in the event of a "Yes" vote a new Scottish parliament can pass and legislate for changes in the welfare bill to ensure that their flagship policy does indeed become a reality.

Put simply all that is required is for the parliament to differentiate between a plan "intended to allow more women to enter the workforce" and changes to the welfare bill that create a situation whereby more women are forced to either enter or return to the workforce.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Any decent Risk Assessment takes into consideration the severity of the Impact of the risk and the Likelyhood of the risk occurring - it would be unusual (actually, pointless) in business to assess the risk after the event.

Yet this is what it would appear to be happening in the Referendum.....

Agreed. However, the risks can be reviewed, addressed and (for the greater part) averted after the referendum result via the mutually beneficial negotiations to be held as per the Memorandum of Understanding relating to the outcome (whatever that might be).

That is under the assumption that the benefits are mutual.....

Basic requirement of any major programme of work is the ARIaD (also know as the RAID) log -

Assumptions
Risks
Issues
and
Dependencies

These are usually done before the Programme starts, and updated/added to when something unforeseen occurs.

How can anyone assume things will be mutually beneficial with all the cat-fighting that is going on?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Hugh

That is under the assumption that the benefits are mutual.....


How can anyone assume things will be mutually beneficial with all the cat-fighting that is going on?

Well you see there's Murphy's Law for the Irish and now there's Salmond's Assumption for the Scots...

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

That is under the assumption that the benefits are mutual.....

The Memorandum is unequivocal in that it requires both parties, whatever the outcome, to work in the best interests of The people of Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom.

"The United Kingdom and Scottish Governments are committed, through the Memorandum of Understanding 4 between them and others, to working together on matters of mutual interest and to the principles of good communication and mutual respect. The two governments have reached this agreement in that spirit. They look forward to a referendum that is legal and fair producing a decisive and respected outcome. The two governments are committed to continue to work together constructively in the light of the outcome, whatever it is, in the best interests of the people of Scotland and of the rest of the United Kingdom."

Originally Posted by Hugh

Basic requirement of any major programme of work is the ARIaD (also know as the RAID) log -

Assumptions
Risks
Issues
and
Dependencies

These are usually done before the Programme starts, and updated/added to when something unforeseen occurs.

I'm sure there has been some degree of pre-planning and contingency development by both parties.

Originally Posted by Hugh

How can anyone assume things will be mutually beneficial with all the cat-fighting that is going on?

Yes, one could almost be forgiven for thinking that there are those who are pro-actively working to scupper any chance of a "Yes" vote. The cat-fighting really ought to be taking place after the referendum and under the auspices of the Memorandum.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

The Memorandum is unequivocal in that it requires both parties, whatever the outcome, to work in the best interests of The people of Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom.

I don't understand how that is relevant?

[Mr Angry]

In what sense do you not understand its relevance?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

In what sense do you not understand its relevance?

Well how is it relevant to what Hugh said?

I mean that text is meaningless guff. It's so ambiguous.

[Mr Angry]

It's relevant in that many of the things already ruled out by or mooted by either side will have to be hammered out after the outcome, whatever that may be, is known.

Hugh stated that "....it would be unusual (actually, pointless) in business to assess the risk after the event" I was merely pointing out that provision had already been made for that very scenario in the shape of the terms of the Memorandum.


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Originally Posted by Damien

I mean that text is meaningless guff. It's so ambiguous.

Politics 101.

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/section...ame&issue=1365

Who is bullying who?

[Osem]

If Cameron will have to resign if Scotland leaves the union, will Salmond do us all a favour and do likewise if it doesn't happen I wonder? Maybe he could emulate some of the more high profile SNP supporters who left Scotland years ago...

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Derek

Once again the SNP are hiding away potentially bad news about how their flagship policies might be total nonsense.

http://scottishpol.blogspot.co.uk/20...r-you.html?m=1

How would the policy create extra tax revenue? Any increase in female employment would be at the expense of male employment. The only possible increase would be in the job creation scheme of staff at the nurseries, which is funded by the taxpayers.