17-08-2004, 13:48
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
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It would be easier to manage further up the network (fewer machines to update).
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An excellent point well made, although it some anti-worm stuff is done on the boxes themselves, this isn't Samsung specific (that would be pointless) and shouldn't affect P2P, as Bill suggests.
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17-08-2004, 13:51
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
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Originally Posted by BBKing
An excellent point well made, although it some anti-worm stuff is done on the boxes themselves, this isn't Samsung specific (that would be pointless) and shouldn't affect P2P, as Bill suggests.
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Maybe that's what the technician meant? Admittedly, NTL were quite public about doing that.
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17-08-2004, 14:04
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
It occured to me that that was what it was, but since ntl announced it months ago and the ports blocked are up on the website and it applies to all CMs and STBs it struck me as nothing new.
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17-08-2004, 14:04
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
I think its a bit harsh to not allow links to other forums, this is the first public forum I have seen such a rule but I am not a mod so who am I to argue.
Back to the topic it wouldnt surprise me if the hardware had the technology but I dont think it would be to block p2p ntl know the consequences of such an action and I dont think its worth the hassle and like bbking said if they wanted to do it they could do it at a more central point higher up in their network. If its an issue just do away with the STB and get a cable modem they better anyway.
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17-08-2004, 14:16
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
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Originally Posted by ANORAK2001
I have just spoken to someone at tech support and he has confirmed that the Samsung has packet sniffing technology, it reads packet header information to see if you are using P2P and starts dropping those packets.
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Quite frankly, this must be a contender for one the most ill informed statements of the year. Samsung boxes cannot sniff packets any more than I can, and if ntl wanted to block P2P this would not be their chosen method. In fact, I know from inside knowledge of certain plans (which sadly I cannot make public) that ntl's attitude to P2P is a long way from actively blocking it.
It seems clear from subsequent posts that you have nothing to base this on other than a supposed conversation with "someone at tech support", and your posts and actions (both here and on another site) cause the word "troll" to spring to mind.
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17-08-2004, 14:22
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cf.mega poster
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
I take back my comment about the censoring of the link been harsh seeing it from another view point I understand that he was misinforming people and could have caused extra confusion. I apologise for my comment.
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17-08-2004, 17:57
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
Glad to say that:
Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:56:48 GMT
1st 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 719 ms = 182298 Bytes/sec = approx 1517 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 719 ms = 182298 Bytes/sec = approx 1517 kbits/sec
Sg17 is upgraded!! HURAH!!! Finally !!!!
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17-08-2004, 18:22
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
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Originally Posted by marvel
Glad to say that:
Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:56:48 GMT
1st 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 719 ms = 182298 Bytes/sec = approx 1517 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 719 ms = 182298 Bytes/sec = approx 1517 kbits/sec
Sg17 is upgraded!! HURAH!!! Finally !!!!
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17-08-2004, 18:42
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
I dont think it is all good! Sometimes when i do a test the first section will be 300 kbps then 1551 for the rest!!!
Like this:
Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:43:47 GMT
1st 128K took 3438 ms = 38124 Bytes/sec = approx 317 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 719 ms = 182298 Bytes/sec = approx 1517 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec
And when listening to radio thru winamp occasionally it will pause cost of the connection dropping for a second or two!
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17-08-2004, 21:00
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
YES!!!!!!!!!
Finally, NTL have done my speed upgrade, it WAS something to do with Luton, as when Luton had "Network Upgrades" done this morning, My speed went up, yey ntl, YEY
Tue, 17 Aug 2004 19:59:23 GMT
1st 128K took 718 ms = 182552 Bytes/sec = approx 1519 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 719 ms = 182298 Bytes/sec = approx 1517 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 688 ms = 190512 Bytes/sec = approx 1585 kbits/sec
Woohoo, (How do you change your vote on these things )
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17-08-2004, 21:11
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
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Don't worry Ramrod. Us 1Mb STB users will be upgraded soon (I hope).
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17-08-2004, 21:25
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
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Originally Posted by scastle
will be upgraded soon (I hope).
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straight out of an NTL quote book that one !!
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17-08-2004, 22:43
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
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Originally Posted by scastle
Don't worry Ramrod. Us 1Mb STB users will be upgraded soon (I hope).
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Thanks for those kind words but I am not holding my breath on this.......
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17-08-2004, 22:53
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
So when's the set top box swaps occuring in the North West? Had a letter off NTL 6? weeks ago and no contact since? Read previously that the upgrade was due in Sept? which doesn't leave much time.
Anyone from NTL in the North West (BillC?) care to comment please?
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17-08-2004, 23:19
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Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
hmm, our area is upgraded and we've still got the pace box on 1mb
no letter at all saying we were getting extra speed.
We had the pace box originally for the broadband, then we got a modem installed and ntl proceeded to rape our bank for £65 without ANY warning (even by the main email account for the sacm internet setup!), so we phoned them up and explained we were not pleased that they took the money in that way. NTL then said they would not change the billing for the modem (which had to go on a 2nd account btw... why? well, im not sure... same name, address and everything) so we could pay it in a paypoint or with a payment card or something as they couldnt do that with new accounts (im sure that was utter BS tbh)
So we got the eng out to take the modem out (who actually took the modem but left the power plug and coax cable in place all plugged in (nice and safe tbh init?), looked at the router, grunted and left. I came home from work and set it all back up myself (understandable I assume... routers arent supported i guess would be the reason).
So... back on pace box but wanting a samsung box for our extra speed which had the visiting eng contemplated it, he could have saved a job of re-visiting and installing ANOTHER box which we're gonna phone them for tomorrow.
so err yeah... thanks ntl :/
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