26-04-2017, 10:08
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Re: Football Season 2016/2017
Breaking news, several football people arrested, West Ham and Newcastle involved??
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...st-james-park/
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26-04-2017, 10:51
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Re: Football Season 2016/2017
l can't say l am surprised by this given the murky world of transfer dealings not just in this country but also in the other main football jurisdiction's as well.
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26-04-2017, 15:08
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Re: Football Season 2016/2017
It'll all just fizzle out or Lee Charnley gets sacked. Win/Win.
This is because we sold that guy Sissoko to Spurs and told them he was a footballer. Seriously however, it appears to be a personal investigation into certain employees and not directly the clubs. Appears Charnley at Newcastle has been fiddling income and national insurance. The French link has something to do with the way he's been handling income for image rights. Not sure what's up with West Ham but the above is the news here at the moment. Wouldn't be surprised to see other clubs pop up soon but I'm sure West Ham and others are just employee issues and not strictly club issues.
This has nothing to do with transfers of any club or club finances.
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26-04-2017, 17:18
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Re: Football Season 2016/2017
Seems to be confirmation that employees of OM, Newcastle United and West Ham have been hiding money in certain aspects of the deal such as image rights, i.e botching the amount paid and received at both ends. Allegedly of course.
Again though the transfers appear to be legitimate, it's personal gains that are being looked at. Florian Thauvin, Remy Cabella and Dmitri Payet are just a few that have left both Newcastle and West Ham recently.
Remains to be seen if Lee Charnley is separate from the OM issue. Only official statement is Charnley is being investigated for income tax and national insurance fraud.
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27-04-2017, 00:10
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Re: Football Season 2016/2017
In other news relating to the summer then, Newcastle set to spend £100 million over the course.
Arsenal win their must win and have the edge over United in fairness despite the 3 point gap. United's run in is horrific.
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27-04-2017, 22:00
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What a plonker Fellaini is, suckered by Aguero into that, idiot. A draw no use to either team but I reckon Jose will be happier than Pep.
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27-04-2017, 22:35
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Re: Football Season 2016/2017
Aguero should be banned for being an ********. Becoming such a **** of a player.
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27-04-2017, 23:57
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Re: Football Season 2016/2017
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc
Seems to be confirmation that employees of OM, Newcastle United and West Ham have been hiding money in certain aspects of the deal such as image rights, i.e botching the amount paid and received at both ends. Allegedly of course.
Again though the transfers appear to be legitimate, it's personal gains that are being looked at. Florian Thauvin, Remy Cabella and Dmitri Payet are just a few that have left both Newcastle and West Ham recently.
Remains to be seen if Lee Charnley is separate from the OM issue. Only official statement is Charnley is being investigated for income tax and national insurance fraud.
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Sylvan Marvoux has been implicated in the fraud, presumably for taking wages whilst masquerading as a footballer
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28-04-2017, 01:07
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Sylvan Marvoux has been implicated in the fraud, presumably for taking wages whilst masquerading as a footballer
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Heh, anyway, seems certain now Lee Charnley was involved in lowering player wages in return for higher image rights, thus dodging tax deliberately for incoming players. So again, not really the transfers themselves but players that had signed dodgy deals. Not certain of West Ham or OM's involvement but both seem minimal to it and rather just linked via sets of Newcastle players. Demba Ba is one of those that appears to have taken such a deal from Charnley.
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28-04-2017, 01:54
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Heh, anyway, seems certain now Lee Charnley was involved in lowering player wages in return for higher image rights, thus dodging tax deliberately for incoming players. So again, not really the transfers themselves but players that had signed dodgy deals. Not certain of West Ham or OM's involvement but both seem minimal to it and rather just linked via sets of Newcastle players. Demba Ba is one of those that appears to have taken such a deal from Charnley.
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Someone said earlier payet was involved to...
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28-04-2017, 05:23
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Re: Football Season 2016/2017
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What a plonker Fellaini is, suckered by Aguero into that, idiot. A draw no use to either team but I reckon Jose will be happier than Pep.
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Absolute stupidity sadly.
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28-04-2017, 22:29
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Re: Football Season 2016/2017
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Someone said earlier payet was involved to...
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Payet was someone I mentioned as a link between OM and West Ham, it however appears that it was speculation and the only club involved is Newcastle, West Ham were merely involved for documents, presumably those of Demba Ba pre-Newcastle move. There's then countless links between Newcastle and OM.
So this all appears to fall solely on Lee Charnley at Newcastle. As it's a HMRC issue, no punishment will fall to the club itself, Charnley could be in trouble of course and likely will be, the club itself could face a mediocre fine around £5 million, which is a Marveaux these days.... So nothing drastic.
Another twist however is speculation that HMRC have thus far botched the entire thing and there's growing pressure already for them to hurry up and produce something significant. The Guardian pointed out the heavy handed arrest and later being released without charge showing the whole case actually rests on finding something, not something they already had.
As for Charnley himself, well he and Mike Ashley discussed his future and the best way to put it was, they don't care about the HMRC investigation. Charnley will remain in charge and they're just going about their business. That would again suggest HMRC have made a dogs arse of it.
Personally I think they probably have being abusing the system via image rights. That's really as far as I could go, I don't understand the legality of it or law surrounding it so it'd be pointless saying more.
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30-04-2017, 13:02
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Re: Football Season 2016/2017
Nothing better than up and coming English talent diving.
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30-04-2017, 13:50
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Nothing better than up and coming English talent diving.
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Of course we delude ourselves in this country that only Johnny Foreigner does that type of thing.
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30-04-2017, 15:37
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I was right behind it and I didn't think it was a penalty for one minute.
Absolutely dire performance but the loss of another two defenders through injury is more of a worry.
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