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Old 01-06-2021, 11:46   #6811
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Re: Moans and Pet Hates part 8

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You realise that with the move to electric there isn't going to be any emissions, by your logic none of us will have anything to pay except they're talking about charging us by the mile to replace the lost fuel duty, presumably you're fine with that applying to push bikes to

Of of course, they'll find something else to tax on. Which will probably be where price per mile charging comes in...

As others have mentioned, the guvmin appear to be very keen for people to get 'on their bikes' can't see them introducing anything to dissuade it

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But you're drifting from the point. On the curving country roads, the ride 2 abreast at best and in Peloton formation at worst. You can't get past them and they know it. Scourge doesn't cover it!
It would appear that you seem to believe you have divine right to pass cyclists ?

As i on a motorbike, can easily outpace & manoeuvre you in a car. I'd presume you would have no issue with me smashing your wing mirror off should you impede my progress.

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Old 01-06-2021, 11:58   #6812
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Re: Moans and Pet Hates part 8

Hah! My complaint about cyclists is that they damn well ride wherever they want irrespective of whether they are allowed to.They ignore designated cycleways/pavements and ride everywhere the local council have local laws that say no cycling. No one is safe on our seaside promenade despite foot high white painted signs on the promenade surface saying No Cycling.Law unto themselves.
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Old 01-06-2021, 13:02   #6813
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Of of course, they'll find something else to tax on. Which will probably be where price per mile charging comes in...

As others have mentioned, the guvmin appear to be very keen for people to get 'on their bikes' can't see them introducing anything to dissuade it

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It would appear that you seem to believe you have divine right to pass cyclists ?

As i on a motorbike, can easily outpace & manoeuvre you in a car. I'd presume you would have no issue with me smashing your wing mirror off should you impede my progress.

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What? Where did that invention come from? My remarks doe not concern motor bikers.

Of course I have the right to pass cyclists. I would never endanger them or remonstrate (other than curse under my breath).
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Old 01-06-2021, 13:06   #6814
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Re: Moans and Pet Hates part 8

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Hah! My complaint about cyclists is that they damn well ride wherever they want irrespective of whether they are allowed to.They ignore designated cycleways/pavements and ride everywhere the local council have local laws that say no cycling. No one is safe on our seaside promenade despite foot high white painted signs on the promenade surface saying No Cycling.Law unto themselves.
could you please add the word "some" because you like a lot have fallen into the absolutes trap
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Old 01-06-2021, 13:14   #6815
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could you please add the word "some" because you like a lot have fallen into the absolutes trap
We're only talking about the bad cyclists. From my observation they vastly outnumber the "good" cyclists.

I hasn't even started on the red-light busters, riding across pedestrian crossings, deliberately riding on the carriageway despite provided cycle lanes.

Total scourge (except the rare good ones).

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Old 01-06-2021, 13:39   #6816
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We're only talking about the bad cyclists. From my observation they vastly outnumber the "good" cyclists.

I hasn't even started on the red-light busters, riding across pedestrian crossings, deliberately riding on the carriageway despite provided cycle lanes.

Total scourge (except the rare good ones).

you will only notice the bad cyclist the rest will pass by your radar. Can you ever remember turning to your partner and saying "hey that cyclist is riding responsibly" ?

My daughter nearly got run over by a car driver running a red light at a crossing the other day. Drivers are the scourge of the roads. See I did it then. Should not throw stones in glass houses. TBH I do not think I have ever been a passenger in a car where on the journey they have not gone over the speed limit or run a light what I would consider to late
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Old 01-06-2021, 14:02   #6817
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Re: Moans and Pet Hates part 8

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you will only notice the bad cyclist the rest will pass by your radar. Can you ever remember turning to your partner and saying "hey that cyclist is riding responsibly" ?

My daughter nearly got run over by a car driver running a red light at a crossing the other day. Drivers are the scourge of the roads. See I did it then. Should not throw stones in glass houses. TBH I do not think I have ever been a passenger in a car where on the journey they have not gone over the speed limit or run a light what I would consider to late
Well, there's enough bad cyclists in my area for the distinction to be one only for discussion here.

The debate I've introduced here is the narrow (yet widespread) annoyance posed by two abreast cyclists and pelotons on narrow country roads. There is no personal injury involved here, just the annoyance of arrogant so and sos, out in force, on roads that enable people to travel from A to B in a timely manner - except when these inconsiderate cyclists cause a whole queue of motorists behind them

The bad car drivers have nothing to do with this - a totally different discussion.

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Re: Moans and Pet Hates part 8

Middle or outside lane hoggers are annoying me at the moment, forcing people (me) to undertake just because they won't move
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Middle or outside lane hoggers are annoying me at the moment, forcing people (me) to undertake just because they won't move
Yeah and then THEY give you the evils as you pass them on the inside.
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Middle or outside lane hoggers are annoying me at the moment, forcing people (me) to undertake just because they won't move
are they turning right or about to ? I was taught at school ( old cycling proficiency test ) to prepare with plenty of time before turning right and this means taking the outside lane or middle of the road in good time before the turn
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are they turning right or about to ?
I've seen them drive for 2 miles in the outside lane at 50MPH (70 limit) because they want to turn right but are so afraid of doing 70 that they don't want to be "trapped" on the inside.
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We're only talking about the bad cyclists. From my observation they vastly outnumber the "good" cyclists.

I hasn't even started on the red-light busters, riding across pedestrian crossings, deliberately riding on the carriageway despite provided cycle lanes.

Total scourge (except the rare good ones).

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Re: Moans and Pet Hates part 8

I hope all the drivers here are aware of the new fine that appeared recently.

You have to leave 1.5m between you and a cyclist whilst you overtake them.

Failure to do so will result in a 100 fine and 3 points on your licence.

Dashcam and helmet cam footage will suffice for prosecution.
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I hope all the drivers here are aware of the new fine that appeared recently.

You have to leave 1.5m between you and a cyclist whilst you overtake them.

Failure to do so will result in a 100 fine and 3 points on your licence.

Dashcam and helmet cam footage will suffice for prosecution.

It might be manageable on a motorway, forget it on rural roads though
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I hope all the drivers here are aware of the new fine that appeared recently.

You have to leave 1.5m between you and a cyclist whilst you overtake them.

Failure to do so will result in a 100 fine and 3 points on your licence.

Dashcam and helmet cam footage will suffice for prosecution.
That is by no means definite, Taf.

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q967.htm

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.... Therefore, because there isn't a specific offence of failing to give sufficient room to a cyclist when overtaking them, if it was alleged that a driver had done this, consideration would have to be given to the offences of careless driving contrary to section 3 the Road Traffic Act 1988 or dangerous driving contrary to section 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988.
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