Home News Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > Virgin Media Services > Virgin Media TV Service

Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 25-09-2017, 12:21   #2731
theone2k10
There can only be one
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: between Mars and Venus
Age: 39
Services: Plusnet 40mb unlimited fibre, roku, Verizon, netflix, nowtv, hbogo, hulu, SKY+HD box sets pack
Posts: 3,912
theone2k10 has reached the bronze age
theone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze age
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
Eden is a good channel for programmes on nature and one that I would not like to see go. However, I've not seen anything to date to suggest that it will disappear from our screens other than the absence of programming listed in Sky's EPG.

The Virgin EPG suggests that all is well - full programme information there.
It's not going i've already stated what is happening with Eden.

But hey what do i know.
theone2k10 is offline  
Advertisement
Old 25-09-2017, 13:22   #2732
jj20x
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
I never envisaged that HD channels would be closing down in 2017!!
It seems strange that Natural History content was used to showcase HD in the early days and that we have now reached the stage where the HD version of a Natural History channel has been removed.

There's a lot of speculation around at the moment and ultimately, we'll see how any reorganisation of the channel structure at UKTV affects us as VM TV users.

Of course, the genre is niche and doesn't attract a large audience. It's possible that Sky doesn't want to pay a share of subscription revenue to a competitor and would prefer to attract Eden viewers to the Nat Geo Wild channel, which is within the News Corporation/Fox family. Compare this with the recent situation where Sky reduced support for the Discovery group of channels.
 
Old 25-09-2017, 13:53   #2733
OLD BOY
Experience is everything
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wokingham
Services: 2 V6 boxes; Full House; Now TV, Amazon and Netflix; VM broadband and landline
Posts: 7,725
OLD BOY has a bronze arrayOLD BOY has a bronze arrayOLD BOY has a bronze array
OLD BOY has a bronze arrayOLD BOY has a bronze arrayOLD BOY has a bronze array
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 View Post
It's not going i've already stated what is happening with Eden.

But hey what do i know.
Sorry - I appear to have missed that post!
OLD BOY is offline  
Old 25-09-2017, 15:20   #2734
nodrogd
cf.mega poster
 
nodrogd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: West Herts
Services: FHTV, Sports & Movies (2x V6), TA Telco, VIVID 350. Freeview/Freesat HD, Virgin Mobile, Tesco Mobile
Posts: 1,597
nodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these parts
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Just seen a response to the post on the Sky forum about Eden HD closing. Sky are claiming its not them that's responsible for it, & is telling customers to contact UKTV
nodrogd is offline  
Old 25-09-2017, 15:43   #2735
jj20x
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by nodrogd View Post
Just seen a response to the post on the Sky forum about Eden HD closing. Sky are claiming its not them that's responsible for it, & is telling customers to contact UKTV
It's an open platform, any channel can be on there as long as it pays the EPG fee. Ultimately it is a decision for UKTV, that's not to say that Sky hasn't forced their hand by reducing the share of subscription revenue paid to the channel. Either way, I wouldn't expect Sky to take responsibility for the removal.
 
Old 25-09-2017, 15:52   #2736
muppetman11
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 11,369
muppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny stars
muppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny starsmuppetman11 has a pair of shiny stars
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

This will happen more and more in my opinion , Discovery was the start of it however customers weren't happy at that and Sky agreed a deal.

Any of the channels receiving subscription money from Sky will be reviewed when contracts expire , I'm sure if they feel a certain channel isn't performing well with viewers they'll look to renegotiate or drop the channel.
muppetman11 is offline  
Old 25-09-2017, 15:53   #2737
Media Boy
GOT NEWS? PM me.
 
Media Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Media Boy HQ
Posts: 12,251
Media Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny stars
Media Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny stars
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jj20x View Post
It's an open platform, any channel can be on there as long as it pays the EPG fee. Ultimately it is a decision for UKTV, that's not to say that Sky hasn't forced their hand by reducing the share of subscription revenue paid to the channel. Either way, I wouldn't expect Sky to take responsibility for the removal.
We have been saying within Media Boy HQ for years now that the Eden brand is dead in the water.

we feel the following may happen.

-Eden HD > Home HD (Rumours to be GOLD HD)
-Eden > Drama +1
-Eden > Really +1

Virgin Media did sign deal with UKTV in June 2016.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...es-virgin.html

Eden HD did launch on September 27th 2011 on Virgin Media UK:

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=eden+hd
__________________
Virgin - Updated Aug. 09th.
Blog - Updated Nov. 13th.
What may launch - Nov. 13th.
Media Boy is offline  
Old 25-09-2017, 16:19   #2738
Ddonald2016
cf.geek
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 527
Ddonald2016 will become famous soon enoughDdonald2016 will become famous soon enoughDdonald2016 will become famous soon enough
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Can anybody help where is the UKTV app

“We’re delighted to be building on our leadership by giving our customers more UKTV shows than are available on any other platform. With the arrival of the UKTV Play app and the doubling of catch-up content our customers can access more of the entertainment they love in the way they want.”
Ddonald2016 is offline  
Old 25-09-2017, 16:42   #2739
RichardCoulter
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 6,400
RichardCoulter has disabled reputation
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jj20x View Post
It seems strange that Natural History content was used to showcase HD in the early days and that we have now reached the stage where the HD version of a Natural History channel has been removed.

There's a lot of speculation around at the moment and ultimately, we'll see how any reorganisation of the channel structure at UKTV affects us as VM TV users.

Of course, the genre is niche and doesn't attract a large audience. It's possible that Sky doesn't want to pay a share of subscription revenue to a competitor and would prefer to attract Eden viewers to the Nat Geo Wild channel, which is within the News Corporation/Fox family. Compare this with the recent situation where Sky reduced support for the Discovery group of channels.
A very good point that I hadn't considered. I think that the days of Sky willy waving about the number of channels that they have (particularly in HD) could well be over in favour of boosting the number of viewers for the channels that they own or have a financial interest in.

I wonder if the fact that Malone now has a 50% stake in UKTV is of any significance. He may have orchestrated this to reduce competition to his Discovery channel's??

Quote:
Originally Posted by jj20x View Post
It's an open platform, any channel can be on there as long as it pays the EPG fee. Ultimately it is a decision for UKTV, that's not to say that Sky hasn't forced their hand by reducing the share of subscription revenue paid to the channel. Either way, I wouldn't expect Sky to take responsibility for the removal.
Exactly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 View Post
This will happen more and more in my opinion , Discovery was the start of it however customers weren't happy at that and Sky agreed a deal.

Any of the channels receiving subscription money from Sky will be reviewed when contracts expire , I'm sure if they feel a certain channel isn't performing well with viewers they'll look to renegotiate or drop the channel.
Yup, that seems to be the way that it's going. The cost of the football rights, the extra competition that now exists and the apparent plateauing of their subscriber base is clearly affecting Sky.

Eden HD is still broadcasting at present off the Sky EPG.

The new label that is expected to become GOLD HD isn't currently broadcasting anything, but the EPG is now showing a full 7 day EPG for GOLD.

Eden HD continues to be available on VM. Is this now a VM exclusive, or do any other platforms carry it?

---------- Post added at 15:39 ---------- Previous post was at 15:34 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil-ntl View Post
Still on VM and Freeview. Does actually seem quite popular (in Nottingham, at least) Not quite sure where this fits in with "Coming Soon to Virgin TV" though?

Phil
I take your point, but it's a fact that what happens on other platforms (particularly Sky) often has implications for VM and it's customers.

---------- Post added at 15:42 ---------- Previous post was at 15:39 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by nodrogd View Post
There is an American cable channel with this name, but it has nothing to do with bikes.

https://www.ridetv.com/
Good find; this looks to be about horse riding as opposed to cycling.

It had crossed my mind that it could have been a more imaginatively titled porn channel

Last edited by RichardCoulter; 25-09-2017 at 16:56.
RichardCoulter is offline  
Old 25-09-2017, 16:44   #2740
theone2k10
There can only be one
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: between Mars and Venus
Age: 39
Services: Plusnet 40mb unlimited fibre, roku, Verizon, netflix, nowtv, hbogo, hulu, SKY+HD box sets pack
Posts: 3,912
theone2k10 has reached the bronze age
theone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze agetheone2k10 has reached the bronze age
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 View Post
This will happen more and more in my opinion , Discovery was the start of it however customers weren't happy at that and Sky agreed a deal.

Any of the channels receiving subscription money from Sky will be reviewed when contracts expire , I'm sure if they feel a certain channel isn't performing well with viewers they'll look to renegotiate or drop the channel.
Absolutely agree with this,
on the otherhand although not ideal until pic quality improves TV Player are a good alternative they are getting more channels too their latest beine Ginx esports tv strangely tv player is the only platform offering ginxtv on demand content too. Sky nor VM don't have ginxtv on demand.
theone2k10 is offline  
Old 25-09-2017, 17:17   #2741
nodrogd
cf.mega poster
 
nodrogd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: West Herts
Services: FHTV, Sports & Movies (2x V6), TA Telco, VIVID 350. Freeview/Freesat HD, Virgin Mobile, Tesco Mobile
Posts: 1,597
nodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these partsnodrogd is just so famous around these parts
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy View Post

Eden HD did launch on September 27th 2011 on Virgin Media UK:

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=eden+hd
It also launched last year on BT TV, so its not a Virgin Media exclusive even though its bee removed from Sky..
nodrogd is offline  
Old 25-09-2017, 17:33   #2742
OLD BOY
Experience is everything
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wokingham
Services: 2 V6 boxes; Full House; Now TV, Amazon and Netflix; VM broadband and landline
Posts: 7,725
OLD BOY has a bronze arrayOLD BOY has a bronze arrayOLD BOY has a bronze array
OLD BOY has a bronze arrayOLD BOY has a bronze arrayOLD BOY has a bronze array
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 View Post
Can anybody help where is the UKTV app

“We’re delighted to be building on our leadership by giving our customers more UKTV shows than are available on any other platform. With the arrival of the UKTV Play app and the doubling of catch-up content our customers can access more of the entertainment they love in the way they want.”
If I remember correctly, we don't have the UKTV app as such, but we have all the channels from there listed separately (W, Dave, etc) under both Catch Up and On Demand.
OLD BOY is offline  
Old 25-09-2017, 18:28   #2743
jj20x
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy View Post
We have been saying within Media Boy HQ for years now that the Eden brand is dead in the water.
That can be said of pretty much any niche channel, they aren't going to attract a large number of viewers. Pay tv is supposed to increase choice by making such content available, even when it doesn't have a large audience. Maybe the problem is too many channels offering similar niche content.

---------- Post added at 18:28 ---------- Previous post was at 18:20 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
I wonder if the fact that Malone now has a 50% stake in UKTV is of any significance. He may have orchestrated this to reduce competition to his Discovery channel's??
I had considered that but it's maybe a little early in the day for Malone to be influencing events before the acquisition is complete. No doubt further consolidation will follow, subject to BBC approval. Food Network and Good Food also seem to be competing for the same audience for much of the time.
 
Old 25-09-2017, 19:09   #2744
Media Boy
GOT NEWS? PM me.
 
Media Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Media Boy HQ
Posts: 12,251
Media Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny stars
Media Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny starsMedia Boy has a pair of shiny stars
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Here is some updated info we can reveal: RED mean information updated.

1) Virgin Media UK are in talks with an broadcaster.
2) New Channels may launch (Still not testing but Media Boy Sources say rumour as set to launch by 2019).
3) Virgin Media UK are testing something - hope to launch by 2018.
4) Rumours about more new channels (Got an broadcaster name confirmed).
__________________
Virgin - Updated Aug. 09th.
Blog - Updated Nov. 13th.
What may launch - Nov. 13th.

Last edited by Media Boy; 25-09-2017 at 19:13.
Media Boy is offline  
Old 25-09-2017, 19:13   #2745
RichardCoulter
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 6,400
RichardCoulter has disabled reputation
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jj20x View Post
That can be said of pretty much any niche channel, they aren't going to attract a large number of viewers. Pay tv is supposed to increase choice by making such content available, even when it doesn't have a large audience. Maybe the problem is too many channels offering similar niche content.

I had considered that but it's maybe a little early in the day for Malone to be influencing events before the acquisition is complete. No doubt further consolidation will follow, subject to BBC approval. Food Network and Good Food also seem to be competing for the same audience for much of the time.

True.

Re: Eden low viewing figures. I don't think that their daft renaming excercise will have helped Eden to reach its target audience either. If I was interested in gardening and quickly going through the EPG I don't think that Eden would be enough of a prompt to make me connect the channel with the subject matter.
RichardCoulter is offline  
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 21:25.


Server: xenon.zmnt.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.