Brexit

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Sun:


Rebel Tory MP Philip Lee is to face a no confidence vote by local party Brexiteers trying to oust him, The Sun can reveal.

The outspoken MP for Bracknell resigned as a justice minister last year to back a second referendum.

He is the latest in a series of pro-EU Tories to face deselection attempts.

The vote will be held on June 1, after 53 members signed a petition calling for one.

One of many chickens that are coming home to roost for MP's that are not representing the wishes of their constituents.

Originally Posted by Damien

Not if they're seeking political office because then the question is what do they expect in return? It's legitimate to ask those questions.

It is but ALL Parties should be being asked.

As usual it’s one sided rubbish that us Brexiteers see right through and just ignore it. It’s just desperate Remainer noise, trying to smear and it’s not working.

Originally Posted by Mick

It is but ALL Parties should be being asked.
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If Corbyn's personal life was getting independently funded by someone else in this fashion it would certainly be a story. Corbyn himself has constantly (and rightly) been challenged for his statements about the IRA, NATO and antisemitism but when a Brexit Party Candidate is challenged for supporting the Warrington then it's seen as one-sided bias and irrelevant.

As with the defenders of Corbyn there is a cult of personality around these people where it's seen as illegitimate to challenge them. Politicians are the powerful, not us, and people acting as their protectors is weird.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

Not if they're seeking political office because then the question is what do they expect in return? It's legitimate to ask those questions.

What to Tory donors expect in return, what to the trade unions expect in return?

it's no different.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

One of many chickens that are coming home to roost for MP's that are not representing the wishes of their constituents.

Is that a washed chicken or a chlorinated chicken?

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Originally Posted by Damien

If Corbyn's personal life was getting independently funded by someone else in this fashion it would certainly be a story.

it is, by us.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

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Is that a washed chicken or a chlorinated chicken?

It is an M&S chicken.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It is an M&S chicken.

80% of chickens from Marks & Spencer and Sainsbury’s carry deadly superbug
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...-superbug.html

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

80% of chickens from Marks & Spencer and Sainsbury’s carry deadly superbug
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...-superbug.html

We buy ours from the local market.

Originally Posted by Damien

If Corbyn's personal life was getting independently funded by someone else in this fashion it would certainly be a story. Corbyn himself has constantly (and rightly) been challenged for his statements about the IRA, NATO and antisemitism but when a Brexit Party Candidate is challenged for supporting the Warrington then it's seen as one-sided bias and irrelevant.

As with the defenders of Corbyn there is a cult of personality around these people where it's seen as illegitimate to challenge them. Politicians are the powerful, not us, and people acting as their protectors is weird.

You’re forgetting Corbyn has rubbed shoulders with the IRA, and even has a Shadow Home Secretary, that’s Diane Abbott, who previously was championing British Defeat during that bloody era and Farage is getting hammered for what?

Receiving handouts, from shock horror, someone else who is rich and wants Brexit so badly, we suppose to be concerned about this or the current dodgy leadership of her Majesty’s official opposition???

I reaffirm that the questioning of funding is one sided, where are the questions on who is funding the Remain Parties...???

Nigel gets chased by the Media pundits daily with these questions. Meanwhile, Anna Soubry from Change UK or the Barcode redacted Party, was asked this morning on talk radio, who their big donors where, silence. But Farage is the bad guy here?

Gimme a break.

Originally Posted by Pierre

What to Tory donors expect in return, what to the trade unions expect in return?

it's no different.

Yes but these donations are declared as a result because they've gone to a registered party. If a politician was receiving undeclared 'donations' for personal living expenses then that would be a news story.

it is, by us.

That's a salary and, again, anything else is declared.

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Originally Posted by Mick

You’re forgetting Corbyn has rubbed shoulders with the IRA, and even has a Shadow Home Secretary, that’s Diane Abbott, who previously was championing British Defeat during that bloody era and Farage is getting hammered for what?

I don't forget. I have also criticised Corbyn for this stuff multiple times on here.

Farage isn't getting so hammed in this case but Claire Fox who supported them too.

Receiving handouts, from shock horror, someone else who is rich and wants Brexit so badly, we suppose to be concerned about this or the current dodgy leadership of her Majesty’s official opposition???

I reaffirm that the questioning of funding is one sided, where are the questions on who is funding the Remain Parties...???

You can see who is funding them here: https://www.electoralcommission.org....ions-and-loans

Nigel gets chased by the Media pundits daily with these questions. Meanwhile, Anna Soubry from Change UK or the Barcode redacted Party, was asked this morning on talk radio, who their big donors where, silence. But Farage is the bad guy here?

So it isn't just Farage getting questioned on these things then is it? The main difference here is some people think he shouldn't be.

I never said he should not be, questioning should be across the board but because we have biased media against Brexit, it’s all about getting at Farage.

BREAKING: Labour pull out of Cross-party talks on Brexit negotiations with the Conservative Party.

https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-co...-over-11722003

Originally Posted by Mick

I never said he should not be, questioning should be across the board but because we have biased media against Brexit, it’s all about getting at Farage.

Because we know whose funding the other parties other than Change UK who have also been questioned when they first appeared and were again questioned today as you have said. The structure of these parties and their recent appearance means people are going into an election without a clear idea of this and therefore it's legitimately in the public interest for the media to try and find out.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mick

I never said he should not be, questioning should be across the board but because we have biased media against Brexit, it’s all about getting at Farage.

BREAKING: Labour pull out of Cross-party talks on Brexit negotiations with the Conservative Party.

https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-co...-over-11722003

Quelle surprise as l think we all knew that was pretty inevitable.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Non-story.

If Farage was an MP, he could legitimately claim all of that from the Taxpayer via his expenses.

That fact he was being funded by a wealthy individual, is the wealthy individuals business

You wish it was a non-story but what are Banks and his unknown funders getting in return?

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Originally Posted by denphone

Quelle surprise as l think we all knew that was pretty inevitable.

Surprised they lasted this long.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Damien

Because we know whose funding the other parties other than Change UK who have also been questioned when they first appeared and were again questioned today as you have said. The structure of these parties and their recent appearance means people are going into an election without a clear idea of this and therefore it's legitimately in the public interest for the media to try and find out.

So which party was Farage a member of while his personal lifestyle was funded by Banks? He had stood down from UKIP and The Brexit party didn't exist.

Originally Posted by Damien

Because we know whose funding the other parties other than Change UK who have also been questioned when they first appeared and were again questioned today as you have said. The structure of these parties and their recent appearance means people are going into an election without a clear idea of this and therefore it's legitimately in the public interest for the media to try and find out.

Exactly!