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Old 08-07-2020, 12:09   #1
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U.S Election 2020

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This is the thread to talk about the candidates, the election, polling and the aftermath of President-Elect Kayne West's shock 50 state sweep.

The election is on November 3, 2020. Trump is the Republican Nominee and Biden is the presumptive Democratic Nominee.

The current state of the polling is here: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6247.html
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Old 08-07-2020, 12:16   #2
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The risk for the Democrats is that they will fall back on smug complacency, as they are wont to do when faced with an opponent they assume everyone can see is unsuitable for the presidency. Al Gore v George Bush is a relatively recent example.
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Thread for the U.S Election 2020.

This is the thread to talk about the candidates, the election, polling and the aftermath of President-Elect Kayne West's shock 50 state sweep.

The election is on November 3, 2020. Trump is the Republican Nominee and Biden is the presumptive Democratic Nominee.

The current state of the polling is here: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6247.html
Biden clinched the nomination last month - he is now the Nominee, rather than the presumptive Nominee.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ial-nomination
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Old 08-07-2020, 12:42   #4
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The risk for the Democrats is that they will fall back on smug complacency, as they are wont to do when faced with an opponent they assume everyone can see is unsuitable for the presidency. Al Gore v George Bush is a relatively recent example.
I don't think it's complacency but I do think their strategy is going to be to play it safe and try to make the election about Trump and not Biden. They probably need to ensure Biden is seen as 'safe' to Republican-Leaning swing voters or at the very least not inspire the fear/hatred that Clinton did. Enough to ensure that people who don't like Trump turn out and those who don't like either don't feel compelled to keep Biden out.

We've been here before so we're treating polls with skepticism. But Biden is ahead of where Clinton was in national polling but also even further ahead of her in the swing state polling. If it wasn't for the example of 2016 people would be calling it now.

Biden will hopefully not make the same mistakes as Clinton and visit the industral states. He is more popular in Michigan because of his assoication with the auto-bailout in 2008.

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Biden clinched the nomination last month - he is now the Nominee, rather than the presumptive Nominee.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ial-nomination
Ah, I thought it was kept as 'presumptive' until the convention.
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And Biden now becoming the official Democrat Nominee, he will be in the Televised Presidential debates, head-to-head with Trump, there is usually 3 debates. Each one is going to be serious prime time tv around the world!

Especially when the hostilities between them have been quite severe... Biden once said he'd have been the type to Punch the bully boy Trump, behind the sports hall. Trump came back with the infamous rebuttal....

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If it was a proper fight, I'd have money on a Trump win with a knockout 2cnd round.


Pity it's just peacock posturing, a promoter could make a fortune
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That he’s running for president in 2020 under a new banner—the Birthday Party—with guidance from Elon Musk and an obscure vice presidential candidate he’s already chosen. “Like anything I’ve ever done in my life,” says West, “I’m doing to win.”
That he no longer supports President Trump. “I am taking the red hat off, with this interview.”
That he’s okay with siphoning off Black votes from the Democratic nominee, thus helping Trump. “I’m not denying it, I just told you. To say that the Black vote is Democratic is a form of racism and white supremacy.”
That he’s never voted in his life.
That he was sick with Covid-19 in February.
That he’s suspicious of a coronavirus vaccine, terming vaccines “the mark of the beast.”
That he believes “Planned Parenthoods have been placed inside cities by white supremacists to do the Devil’s work.”
That he envisions a White House organizational model based on the secret country of Wakanda in Black Panther.
Read the full interview on the link above.

And you thought Trump had a few screws loose.
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To be honest, I think most Americans have a screw loose.

I don't have a problem with the concept of complete nutters trying to enter politics (monster raving loony party lol), but when those nutters seriously expect to win and are considered a genuine choice by the people and media. . . . yeah, ok
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The Presidency is odd because you don't have all the hassle a Prime Minister has in working your way up through a party structure. I prefer our system as no PM can get to that position without getting selected by a local party or the party establishment to become an MP (decent chance of a nutter getting though), getting selected by the Parliamentary Party (low chance of a nutter getting though) and getting selected by the membership to lead the party (extremely high chance of a nutter).

If you have the money you can railroad the party establishment a lot easier in the United States although it's still hard. Trump is a rare exception. Obama wasn't the establishment choice at first but he wasn't unpopular with the DNC either.
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Kanye West has "dropped out" of the 2020 US Presidential Election after he failed to get the backing in Florida despite a 180-strong team, according to reports.

West had reportedly hired campaign staff who tried to get him on the ballot as a third party candidate in the key battleground state but the bid now seems over.

West was serious about running as he had hired election strategist Steve Kramer and had a team of 180 people working on the ground in Florida.

The rapper, 43, has not yet commented on the state of his campaign.

West had started to get his name on the ballot last week as a third party candidate to mount a challenge to President Donald Trump and his presumptive Democratic rival Joe Biden.

West would have needed to obtain 132,781 signatures by July 15 if he was to get on the ticket in the swing state.

"We had overwhelming support to get him on the ballot," Mr Kramer told Intelligencer.
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He had a new single/album out, this was obviously a publicity stunt.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53426285

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Brad Parscale replaced as Trump's campaign manager

Facing a tough re-election battle, US President Donald Trump has replaced his campaign manager.

Mr Trump said he had substituted Bill Stepien, a field director for his 2016 campaign, in place of Brad Parscale.

Mr Parscale - who was reportedly blamed by Mr Trump's inner circle for a poorly attended rally in Oklahoma last month - will stay on as senior adviser.

Opinion polls show the president is trailing his Democratic challenger Joe Biden ahead of November's election.

Mr Trump's statement on Facebook on Wednesday evening said: "Brad Parscale, who has been with me for a very long time and has led our tremendous digital and data strategies, will remain in that role, while being a Senior Advisor to the campaign."

Mr Parscale is said to have found himself sidelined in recent weeks after the president's comeback rally in Tulsa flopped.

Mr Trump's daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner, both White House advisers, are reported to have blamed Mr Parscale for the debacle.
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Best thing Trump could do is fire himself, he's done it to everyone else. Maybe he might realise who the problem is...
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Trailing in the polls is an hilarious line. He was trailing Hillary in 2016, yet he still won more States.

With Sleepy Joe Biden, making gaffe after gaffe, forgetting his words nearly every sentence. Trump should easily walk himself back in to victory.
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