06-05-2019, 11:32
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Whether anyone likes it or not, Article 24 exists, and it exists for a reason.
I note that one of the reasons quoted for this not being possible to implement is that the EU won't be likely to sign up to it because we're already committed to giving them the £40bn!
What an absolute joke. The EU also want frictionless trade as they want to help their industries too, and the £40bn has been pledged as part of the withdrawal agreement, which would not have been signed off under this scenario.
These are just difficulties that have been deliberately put in the way. They are not reasons, and the legislation would not be there if the WTO and the countries signed up to GATT did not intend for it to be used.
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Some people like Rees-Mogg seem to conveniently forget that this legislation requires a deal. It cannot be used in a no-deal scenario!
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The UK would have to reach agreement with the EU. The UK could not do this unilaterally. So this isn’t exactly “no deal”.
That agreement would have to include a plan and timetable for achieving the final agreement. And it would have to have a sufficient amount of detail, including what the final agreement would look like, because …
… the WTO membership could demand changes, if they weren’t convinced that the plan could be achieved within about 10 years. The UK and EU would have to accept those changes or scrap the agreement. (This doesn’t apply to free trade agreements that are not interim.)
In other words, the 10-year “grace period” has been used to cite WTO rules incorrectly by people who only have a superficial understanding of the rules.
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https://tradebetablog.wordpress.com/...-grace-period/
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06-05-2019, 16:53
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#2012
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
More interesting info about members of the new Brexit Party, led by Nigel Farage:
Nigel Farage’s Terrorist Sympathisers
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Does James Glancy, Brexit Party prospective MEP and former SBS officer know that his fellow candidates celebrated the deaths of his comrades in the pursuit of Irish freedom? Does Ann Widdecombe appreciate that she is rubbing shoulders with people who feted the Brighton bombing of the Grand Hotel that nearly killed Margaret Thatcher?
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A Fox in Farage’s coop
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The RCP’s successor organisations, the Institute of Ideas and Spiked magazine, exploited the limitless appetite of the BBC and Tory press for “contrarian” opinions. Such was their success in thinking the unthinkable and saying the unspeakable they drew a $300,000 donation from the billionaire Koch brothers, who fund dozens of right-wing causes.
Farage could not fail to be impressed. He and his former Ukip colleagues opposed attempts by the EU to improve ’elf and safety, and the rebranded RCP had little time for public safety either. Fox denounced the mollycoddling of the “anti-bullying industry”, arguing that teachers who tried to protect children were sapping their “resilience”.
Famously, Farage doesn’t much like East Europeans. At times, it seems as if the only East Europeans he can stand are dictators: Viktor Orbán may have censored the media, packed the judiciary and presided over epic corruption, but to Farage he is a “defender of Hungarian culture” against the EU.
Although Fox told the Mail she disagreed with Farage’s demands for immigration controls, she and her old RCP comrades have had no problems with the most brutal controls imaginable on Europeans who stay in their own countries. When Slobodan Miloševi? and Radovan Karadži? organised rape and death squads in the 1990s to “cleanse” Bosnia’s Muslims, they had no more loyal defenders than the RCP’s magazine Living Marxism.
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Says it all really:
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Deafening silence on Claire Fox from *many* people have been very upset about Corbyn’s IRA sympathies is extremely disappointing. It’s amazing what people will overlook when they’ve picked a team.
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06-05-2019, 17:30
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#2013
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by ianch99
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You know you can be libelled, for making statements like that?
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06-05-2019, 17:52
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
Looks like the remainiac tendency is terrified at the thought of what Farage might achieve less than 3 weeks from now. The social media black ops are in full swing.
To be absolutely clear: I don’t care if Satan himself gets onto the Brexit Party list. We are leaving the EU and none of these people are going to get the chance to do anything of consequence (To be honest they wouldn’t get to achieve anything much if they served a full term on that gravy train).
I am voting Brexit because it is my first and only chance to remind Labour and Tory alike that I voted Leave and that I still expect that to happen.
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06-05-2019, 18:15
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#2015
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by Chris
I am voting Brexit because it is my first and only chance to remind Labour and Tory alike that I voted Leave and that I still expect that to happen.
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You may get another chance to do so if there is another referendum.
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Theresa May has held secret discussions over a three-way second referendum ahead of a crunch meeting with Labour this week to agree a cross-party Brexit deal.
The Prime Minister has carried out “scenario planning” with aides and ministers in case the Government cannot prevent a Parliamentary vote on a second referendum.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ns-case-talks/
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06-05-2019, 18:21
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#2016
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by ianch99
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Is this the best you can do?
Oh well done first link is a blog, an opinion, oh and btw, don't use shortcut urls on here again - I like to know where I am going before I click a link - will consider adding that shortcut url to filter ban list in due course.
Says it all really when all you can do is keep on with the untruths and smearing people who are not actually racist.
Like Chris says - Could be Satan himself - Won't stop me voting for the Brexit Party. So you better get used to it and stop it with the pathetic smearing!
You're getting just so ridiculously desperate now.
You won't get it in to your head that that there is still a lot of people, who want to leave the EU and the legitimate democratic result undertaken in 2016 is still fully valid and the UK still wants to leave the disgusting and corrupt EU!
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06-05-2019, 18:25
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#2017
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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The Brexit Party Ltd does not have members, just supporters.
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06-05-2019, 18:27
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#2018
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
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Ahh who gives a shit ?
Let their be another referendum - Leave will win AGAIN.
And let's have another right after that one - Make it the best of three, just for the Democracy abusers, like you, who cannot accept they lost!!!
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06-05-2019, 18:32
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#2019
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by Mick
Ahh who gives a shit ?
Let their be another referendum - Leave will win AGAIN.
And let's have another right after that one - Make it the best of three, just for the Democracy abusers, like you, who cannot accept they lost!!!
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What are you on about, Mick? I've never advocated a second referendum nor not accepted the result.
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06-05-2019, 18:48
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
What are you on about, Mick? I've never advocated a second referendum nor not accepted the result.
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Ahh come off it Andrew - your remark to Chris a bit above, had the hint of a taunt.
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06-05-2019, 19:03
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
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Scenario planning is some way from actually planning to hold one to be fair. At least they’re actually trying to prepare for eventualities this time.
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06-05-2019, 19:07
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
Hmmm, its kinda hard to vote in a "New Poll" if its closed ....
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06-05-2019, 19:10
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by Paul M
Hmmm, its kinda hard to vote in a "New Poll" if its closed ....
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Check again.
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06-05-2019, 19:10
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#2024
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by Chris
Scenario planning is some way from actually planning to hold one to be fair. At least they’re actually trying to prepare for eventualities this time.
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Agreed.
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06-05-2019, 19:12
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)
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Originally Posted by Mick
Check again.
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.. and now voted.
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