VOD : Netflix/Streaming Services

[ozsat]

Sky have a download from iPlayer option - you can not stream anything.

Originally Posted by jfman

And this is the rub. There's almost no reason, for anyone, anywhere in the UK to have to rely on watching actual BBC1. Virgin have iPlayer, Sky have iPlayer, almost every smart television, Apple TV, Chromecast and Fire Stick has iPlayer.

Yet - people sit down and watch linear TV.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/la...19/lod-ratings

[jfman]

Originally Posted by ozsat

Sky have a download from iPlayer option - you can not stream anything.

To the end user with a decent internet connection the outcome is the same even if it’s technically not “streaming”.

[ozsat]

Not really - iPlayer now has live sport streaming which will include every Wimbledon court in HD and the centre in UHD/HDR.

There will be Glastonbury stuff too.

None of that will be available via Sky boxes.

Originally Posted by jfman

To the end user with a decent internet connection the outcome is the same even if it’s technically not “streaming”.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by ozsat

Not really - iPlayer now has live sport streaming which will include every Wimbledon court in HD and the centre in UHD/HDR.

There will be Glastonbury stuff too.

None of that will be available via Sky boxes.

In the context of the article I linked - catch up viewing - the principle stands.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by ozsat

Not really - iPlayer now has live sport streaming which will include every Wimbledon court in HD and the centre in UHD/HDR.

There will be Glastonbury stuff too.

None of that will be available via Sky boxes.

He wasn't referring to Sport we were talking about catch-up.

[ozsat]

It a "streaming thread" and I was talking about the differences - and Glastonbury isn't a sport.

And not all content is actually available to download anyway.

Originally Posted by muppetman11

He wasn't referring to Sport we were talking about catch-up.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by ozsat

It a "streaming thread" and I was talking about the differences - and Glastonbury isn't a sport.

Agreed it does help though if you generally follow the conversation.

[ozsat]

It takes a while to catch up on 364 pages.

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Agreed it does help though if you generally follow the conversation.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by ozsat

It takes a while to catch up on 364 pages.

I was referring to the conversation we were having about linear and catch up on the last page or so.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by jfman

And this is the rub. There's almost no reason, for anyone, anywhere in the UK to have to rely on watching actual BBC1. Virgin have iPlayer, Sky have iPlayer, almost every smart television, Apple TV, Chromecast and Fire Stick has iPlayer.

Yet - people sit down and watch linear TV.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/la...19/lod-ratings

Out of 60+ million people in this country, a maximum of 8.3m people watched one of those episodes as it was screened.

No, linear is not dead, but an average Neighbours episode used to get more than double those numbers in the late 80s and that show wasn't even shown in prime time, then Sky arrived and that's when things changed and streaming is just the next step in how we watch tv.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Horizon

Out of 60+ million people in this country, a maximum of 8.3m people watched one of those episodes as it was screened.

No, linear is not dead, but an average Neighbours episode used to get more than double those numbers in the late 80s and that show wasn't even shown in prime time, then Sky arrived and that's when things changed and streaming is just the next step in how we watch tv.

The 60 million people figure is a red herring - it's simply unrealistic all will sit down and watch the same thing at the same time. It stands to reason that more choice will lead to lower viewing figures - nobody has disputed that but the threshold at which content providers completely abandon linear is extremely low. Millions of people do still look at their EPGs to see what is on.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

The 60 million people figure is a red herring - it's simply unrealistic all will sit down and watch the same thing at the same time. It stands to reason that more choice will lead to lower viewing figures - nobody has disputed that but the threshold at which content providers completely abandon linear is extremely low. Millions of people do still look at their EPGs to see what is on.

It's also noteworthy that Sky's Now TV service includes an EPG of live TV channels including the Sky Movies channels.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by jfman

The 60 million people figure is a red herring - it's simply unrealistic all will sit down and watch the same thing at the same time. It stands to reason that more choice will lead to lower viewing figures - nobody has disputed that but the threshold at which content providers completely abandon linear is extremely low. Millions of people do still look at their EPGs to see what is on.

Indeed they do and streaming is just the next step from pay tv channels.

It's not necessarily how many eyeballs are watching a channel at any given time which will be the main factor here, although that will be still be a factor, but whether the main content providers withhold content from each other and keep it exclusively on their own services.

Disney has fired the first shots here by withholding content from Netflix and keeping it on its own service, but what about the channels? The first proper "Disney" channel in Europe was Super RTL a Disney/RTL joint venture and this kind of relationship is replicated all over the world across multiple channels between various companies. Most tv channels around the world are either joint ventures between different companies and/or have content on them from different companies.

I think there is a good argument to be had that the fate of all of these joint venture channels and channels which are supplied content from multiple providers will be under serious threat over the coming years. Add in lower viewing for these channels, especially among the younger demographics which are the groups most of interest to advertisers and most of these pay tv channels, I believe, will fold over the next ten or so years.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

As I recall , it was you telling us Netflix would never have ads

Confirmation here that Netflix is still saying that they will not carry commercials.No sport, either.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...rt-commitment/

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Confirmation here that Netflix is still saying that they will not carry commercials.No sport, either.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...rt-commitment/

That will change in time...