UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal - Page 355

Carth · 24-12-2020, 15:51

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

That bit is a real shame to be honest. Erasmus is or was a great thing.

Yeah, all those foreign students now unable to come to the UK and develop their skills . . . the EU countries must be up in arms about that.

Expect changes to that particular part very soon

jonbxx · 24-12-2020, 16:05

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Originally Posted by Carth

Yeah, all those foreign students now unable to come to the UK and develop their skills . . . the EU countries must be up in arms about that.

Expect changes to that particular part very soon

And UK students unable to study in the EU too of course. It's a shame, it's a great system

1andrew1 · 24-12-2020, 16:07

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

And UK students unable to study in the EU too of course. It's a shame, it's a great system

Throwing the baby out with the dishwater? BoJo was talking of a replacement global scheme named after Alan Turin.

papa smurf · 24-12-2020, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Damien

Looks like there will be a new arbitration body?

Headed by Donald trump

nomadking · 24-12-2020, 16:15

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

And UK students unable to study in the EU too of course. It's a shame, it's a great system

They're planning to introduce a new scheme for that. As Boris pointed out, the previous scheme was a massive net loss for the UK, as we were funding, etc, hordes from the EU.

1andrew1 · 24-12-2020, 16:28

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Headed by Donald trump

You're correct in suggesting he'll be spending quite a bit of time in the courtroom next year.

Carth · 24-12-2020, 16:31

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

You're correct in suggesting he'll be spending quite a bit of time in the courtroom next year.

He might go into hiding in Mexico . . . oh hang on

**Hugh** · 24-12-2020, 16:40

In summary

jonbxx · 24-12-2020, 16:48

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Originally Posted by nomadking

They're planning to introduce a new scheme for that. As Boris pointed out, the previous scheme was a massive net loss for the UK, as we were funding, etc, hordes from the EU.

35,524 students and staff coming to the UK = 'hordes'
22,784 UK staff and students going in the other direction

Trying to find the costs at the moment but it seems to be in the tens of millions.

Of course with education it is very difficult to run a profit so I guess it would be a loss but at what intangible value?

**Hugh** · 24-12-2020, 16:50

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

35,524 students and staff coming to the UK = 'hordes'
22,784 UK staff and students going in the other direction

Trying to find the costs at the moment but it seems to be in the tens of millions.

Of course with education it is very difficult to run a profit so I guess it would be a loss but at what intangible value?

So, out of 66 million UK population, we sent 23k.
Out of EU population of 448 million, 36k

The EU has 7 times the population, but sent 1.5 times the students - we were obviously being ripped off...

1andrew1 · 24-12-2020, 16:57

Whilst to me the benefits of leaving the EU are clearly outweighed by the disbenefits, I have to give credit to BoJo for following through on his promise and agreeing a deal with the EU, especially given the ongoing pandemic.

Sephiroth · 24-12-2020, 17:03

I feel a bit of a mullet as I flounder on a scale not before seen. A load of pollocks really.

jonbxx · 24-12-2020, 17:11

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Originally Posted by Hugh

So, out of 66 million UK population, we sent 23k.
Out of EU population of 448 million, 36k

The EU has 7 times the population, but sent 1.5 times the students - we were obviously being ripped off...

Not sure I follow. We send proportionally more students to the EU than we receive and the funding for those students comes from a central pot.

However, it's not the funding that is a shame, it is the loss of opportunity to participate in an excellent experience studying abroad. Let's hope that this Turing Scheme is as good or better

1andrew1 · 24-12-2020, 17:43

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Not sure I follow. We send proportionally more students to the EU than we receive and the funding for those students comes from a central pot.

However, it's not the funding that is a shame, it is the loss of opportunity to participate in an excellent experience studying abroad. Let's hope that this Turing Scheme is as good or better

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Originally Posted by nomadking

They're planning to introduce a new scheme for that. As Boris pointed out, the previous scheme was a massive net loss for the UK, as we were funding, etc, hordes from the EU.

Can you explain how it was a massive net loss for the UK, nomadking?

nomadking · 24-12-2020, 17:44

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Not sure I follow. We send proportionally more students to the EU than we receive and the funding for those students comes from a central pot.

However, it's not the funding that is a shame, it is the loss of opportunity to participate in an excellent experience studying abroad. Let's hope that this Turing Scheme is as good or better

With freedom of movement ending it would've ended up being a backdoor method to “come in, drop out, and stay in the country”, especially as the EU is looking to heavily increase funding, ie numbers.