UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by nomadking

But for opposing reasons.

The reasons don't matter it just brings the break up of the UK quicker. Which will be a shame as everyone loses. ( a bit like Brexit).

[Carth]

Does that mean I can call myself English again instead of British?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

Does that mean I can call myself English again instead of British?

We will be one step closer to Lincolnshire folk becoming the master race init

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Damien

What amazes me is the contortions the cybernats are now making to justify the SNP voting against the deal. Not abstaining, voting against.

How can you spend months, years, warning against the dangers of No Deal then vote against a Deal? It's so opportunistic and cynical but nothing ever seems to stick to the SNP.

The deal is not in danger. If it were, then you would have a point. Between the resounding Conservative majority - delivered by the UK electorate to get a deal - and Kier's abstainers (or are they voting in favour?) there's little, no meaningful outcome from the SNP voting against.

It's hardly contortions. We didn't vote for Brexit, we still vote against Brexit. If the deal failed to pass Parliament and the Tories didn't ask for an extension then that's their bus to crash, not the SNPs.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

An unintended result of Brexit maybe a United Ireland .

The thing is it would be subject to a referendum, and the reason these counties remained British was because they wanted to.

If they want to be part of the RoI or GB is up to them, by no means a “fait accompli”.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

The deal is not in danger. If it were, then you would have a point. Between the resounding Conservative majority - delivered by the UK electorate to get a deal - and Kier's abstainers (or are they voting in favour?) there's little, no meaningful outcome from the SNP voting against.

It's hardly contortions. We didn't vote for Brexit, we still vote against Brexit. If the deal failed to pass Parliament and the Tories didn't ask for an extension then that's their bus to crash, not the SNPs.

Well if the SNP conspired with others to disable the steering wheel, that doesn't let them off the hook when the bus crashes.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well if the SNP conspired with others to disable the steering wheel, that doesn't let them off the hook when the bus crashes.

That bus comparision sounds like a BoJo metaphor.

Whether you like or dislike Ian Blackford and his colleagues or are pleased or upset that the SNP will not vote for a deal it disagrees with, it's hard to call its open decision a conspiracy.

But how will the voting decision of a few opposition parties impact the deal and "crash the bus"?

[pip08456]

A non doom & gloom laden bit of news.

As expected all four of the UK’s primary mobile network operators, including Three UK, Vodafone, O2 and EE (BT), have now confirmed that they have “no plans” (yet) to remove free roaming when the UK fully leaves the European Union on Thursday 31st December 2020 this week.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...u-roaming.html

Originally Posted by pip08456

A non doom & gloom laden bit of news.



https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...u-roaming.html

That really does help me quite a bit.

Hopefully they don't throttle the data plans more though.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by pip08456

A non doom & gloom laden bit of news.



https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...u-roaming.html

As expected all four of the UK’s primary mobile network operators, including Three UK, Vodafone, O2 and EE (BT), have now confirmed that they have “no plans” (yet) to remove free roaming when the UK fully leaves the European Union on Thursday 31st December 2020 this week.

Pip,

Whose yet? Yours or theirs? Sort of important.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

That really does help me quite a bit.

Hopefully they don't throttle the data plans more though.

Does it matter since you won't be allowed out to play in the foreseeable future, it'll be all work and no play till the plandemic is over.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

That really does help me quite a bit.

Hopefully they don't throttle the data plans more though.

I'm with VM which is not on that list. But at the moment, overseas travel is off the agenda anyway! Hopefully, competition will keep VM in line with the Big Four, especially given the future Telefonica connection.

The trend is towards reciprocal deals with network operators all over the world to remove roaming charges. It’s unlikely the major networks will ever reintroduce roaming charges in any European country. I think it’s likely in time that some budget operators may do so.

I think it'll become a premium feature probably.

Well let’s be honest it is a premium feature. In the old regime the additional costs of providing service in foreign countries on third party networks have to be spread across the bills of all users whether or not they travel overseas. That’s an especially raw deal for people on a tight budget who choose a budget mobile operator for basic services. The EU’s roaming charges directive was always about creating the illusion of a single territory, building on the principles of free movement and the single market. The reality is that all of us have been paying for the convenience of the few.