President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

Originally Posted by Mick

But isn’t it again the weird logic of liberals and the hysteria types that the big increases were all down to Obama and now the falls are all Trump’s doing.
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Well as you said a few posts back. It's been a year since Obama is out so this fall isn't to do with him. If Trump is claiming credit for a rise he is going to have to take credit for the fall too.

Personally I don't think Presidents have much of an impact on the overall economy unless they really break it somehow. Short-term measures can boost it but the underlying health is down to all sorts of things. This is a global sell-off and markets have a mind of their own. Part of this correction might be that the tax bill artificially boosted it and now it's reverting to the mean, part of it probably is the suggestion of higher inflation coming, part of it might be fear. Who knows?

Bitcoin has also tumbled quite dramatically.

Originally Posted by Mick

Bitcoin has also tumbled quite dramatically.

Yes, albeit for separate reasons, that is quite funny.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mick

Bitcoin has also tumbled quite dramatically.

It reminds me of the dot-com bubble.

Dow Jones doing better so far today. Hopefully it's stabilizes.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Where in any point of your link did Trump call anyone treasonous?

Don't get me wrong but as I have said many times, I don't like him, I most likely never will but I would never misquote anyone on that basis.

Someone said they were treasonous, and he agreed with them - that's calling someone treasonous...

"They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, 'Treasonous.' I mean, yeah, I guess, why not," he said to laughter.

"Can we call that treason? Why not," he added. He made the remarks during a speech at a manufacturing plant in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Of course, apparently now it was just "tongue in cheek"...

Why do I call him Russki Donald?

Well his son said in 2008

“In terms of high-end product influx into the US,” he says, “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets … We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

In the same year, he sold a property in Florida, in the middle of a property recession due to the economic crisis, to a Russian for over twice what he paid for it 4 years before (he paid $40 million, received $95 million).

Let's not forget Donald Jr's meeting with a Russian lawyer, or the fact that Trump seems to always praise Putin, and hardly ever criticises him, or that Trump ignored the sanctions on Russia passed by both the House and the Senate by overwhelming majorities.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

The Dow Jones, apparently there was a correction then a sell off occurred.

But isn’t it again the weird logic of liberals and the hysteria types that the big increases were all down to Obama and now the falls are all Trump’s doing.

Oh and Andrew, don’t push your luck with me and you know exactly what I’m talking about. Grow up!

I can but guess. If it's about calling him Comrade Trump, see the following post as to why this is warranted: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=381

A trump tweet from 2015, what did it drop my yesterday?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVUmXTRV...jpg&name=small

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

A trump tweet from 2015, what did it drop my yesterday?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVUmXTRV...jpg&name=small

Must be fake. I don't even think there was a drop that big in 2015.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

Must be fake. I don't even think there was a drop that big in 2015.

Looks more like a joke with Dow Jones spelt as Dow Joans.

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

A trump tweet from 2015, what did it drop my yesterday?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVUmXTRV...jpg&name=small

It’s a joke tweet, and the guy that did it is getting deluged...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-42959655

Shaun Usher
@ShaunUsher
Replying to @ShaunUsher
Sweet mother of god. Not for one second did I think people would believe that to be genuine.
9:53 PM - Feb 5, 2018

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

A trump tweet from 2015, what did it drop my yesterday?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVUmXTRV...jpg&name=small

It's very easy to fake a Trump tweet, as I did so in this post not that long ago...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1034

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

It's very easy to fake a Trump tweet, as I did so in this post not that long ago...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1034

That was your finest forum moment for me Mick.

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Hard right dominates use of fake US news, Oxford study finds
Reuters Institue study finds that Trump supporters are more polarised and share a wider range of misinformation than any other US audience group on Twitter

However, ultra-rightwing “hard conservatives” shared the most misinformation while accounts that tweeted hashtags favouring Mr Trump dominated junk news posting on Twitter."
"According to Lisa-Maria Neudert, one of the Oxford researchers, the inaccurate stories shared before Mr Trump’s State of the Union address on January 30 included an article that said flu vaccines were “the greatest medical fraud in the history of the world”. Another claimed the EU was underpinned by “Luciferian” ideology."

https://www.ft.com/content/611d5c90-...7-42f857ea9f09
https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/

DEVELOPING: Text messages from disgraced FBI Agents reveal Peter Strzok and Lisa Page appear to show that former FBI Director James Comey had apparently told Strzok and Page that President Obama wanted “to know everything we’re doing."

While it is not strange for a sitting president to be made aware of such high profile investigations, it raises concerns that Obama might have been personally involved in them and implicated in any inappropriate or illegal activity that was part of those investigations.

The FBI investigation into whether Clinton had sent classified information using a private email server became perhaps the biggest stumbling block of her presidential run. The still unproven narrative that Trump colluded with Russia to win the elections, became one of the main attack lines against Trump.

FBI Director James Comey testified under oath before the Senate Intelligence Committee on June 8, 2016, that Obama’s Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, had instructed him to describe the investigation into Clinton as a “matter” instead of a “criminal investigation.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/fbi-ag...g_2435110.html

Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee Grassley, releases a less redacted and declassified information on the criminal referral of former British Spy MI6 Agent, Steele:-

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo...0Referral).pdf

Can't really see much to that story unless there is more information. The FBI director briefing the President is not a big deal, even Trump asking Corney wasn't the issue with the Russia Probe, it's if Obama tried to then intervene in an active investigation there will be an issue.