General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

The article was talking about Sky's entertainment portfolio so I'm not surprised Sky Sports wasn't mentioned.

Maybe a future Universal channel could show Movies 24 films in the daytime with Universals biggest box office movies at primetime.

Sky Cinema was mention.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Sky Cinema was mention.

I know it was but an earlier poster mentioned they'd something suggesting Universal could become a movie channel.

If Disney , Warner and the other studios take back their content in the future Universal would be the only movies available to Sky.

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by cheekyangus

Every media company offering their own service is going to hurt the likes of Film4. They only have a tiny library of their own.

Agree with this and i think TCM will be affected too.

[cheekyangus]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

Agree with this and i think TCM will be affected too.

Turner Classic Movies should be fine, it's owned by Warner Bros.

[jfman]

More linear channels than at any point in human history...

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I know it was but an earlier poster mentioned they'd something suggesting Universal could become a movie channel.

If Disney , Warner and the other studios take back their content in the future Universal would be the only movies available to Sky.

And now, at last, it is becoming clear to everyone how the streamers will impact on the TV channels. It was being mooted, only a few weeks ago, that the streamers would 'of course' continue to allow TV channels the right to show their material.

Now you are having second thoughts. Glad to have you on board...

[Horizon]

Let's wait and see Old Boy.

This could be the start of Comcast preparing Sky for the loss of massive amounts of content from its channels, or it could be totally unrelated. I think for now it's totally unrelated. They'll only make changes when/if media cos take back rights back for their own content to feed their own services and I think most of these rights deals have a long way to run yet.

It's possible this maybe Comcast slowly winding down the Sky cinema service as we know it, so Sky film channels morph into entertainment and film channels, so the Sky comedy film channel becomes the Sky Comedy entertainment and fim channel, Sky Premier merges with Sky One and the Sky sci fi film channel merges with SyFy and becomes SkyFi, as examples of how it might work. But I think all that's for the future, if at all.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

And now, at last, it is becoming clear to everyone how the streamers will impact on the TV channels. It was being mooted, only a few weeks ago, that the streamers would 'of course' continue to allow TV channels the right to show their material.

Now you are having second thoughts. Glad to have you on board...

Please reference this.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

And now, at last, it is becoming clear to everyone how the streamers will impact on the TV channels. It was being mooted, only a few weeks ago, that the streamers would 'of course' continue to allow TV channels the right to show their material.

Now you are having second thoughts. Glad to have you on board...

I'm having no second thoughts whatsoever , I've never denied some of the big media companies will take their content exclusively onto their own services I still don't believe they all will however.

Look at the HBO service that's due in the USA people are speculating a price of over $15 how many are seriously going to subscribe ?

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by cheekyangus

Turner Classic Movies should be fine, it's owned by Warner Bros.

That not right.

Warner Bros was took over by Turner in the late 1980s.

Turner is now own by AT&T.

All channels in UK are now run by Turner Broadcasting System Europe (WarnerMedia)

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It look like Star Wars is coming back to Sky Cinema from September 2nd on Virgin Channel 402 (Sky Cinema Select HD) [Source TiVo].

[cheekyangus]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

That not right.

Warner Bros was took over by Turner in the late 1980s.

Turner is now own by AT&T.

All channels in UK are now run by Turner Broadcasting System Europe (WarnerMedia)

---------- Post added at 23:22 ---------- Previous post was at 22:11 ----------

It look like Star Wars is coming back to Sky Cinema from September 2nd on Virgin Channel 402 (Sky Cinema Select HD) [Source TiVo].

AT&T own Warner Bros.

Turner became part of Time Warner when they merged in 1996. AT&T in turn bought Time Warner in 2018.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Classic_Movies

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarnerMedia

The whole point is that TCM ultimately is owned by a company that owns a movie studio and it's library, which was the point I was making a few posts ago, that movie channels run by companies without studios or film libraries will have a problem in the future as film studios are cutting out the middle man.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I'm having no second thoughts whatsoever , I've never denied some of the big media companies will take their content exclusively onto their own services I still don't believe they all will however.

Look at the HBO service that's due in the USA people are speculating a price of over $15 how many are seriously going to subscribe ?

That's currently £12.38 in our money, which is expensive compared to Now TV. Will the GoT spin offs be on there? Perhaps they think people will pay more to be sble to get these??

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by cheekyangus

AT&T own Warner Bros.

Turner became part of Time Warner when they merged in 1996. AT&T in turn bought Time Warner in 2018.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Classic_Movies

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarnerMedia

The whole point is that TCM ultimately is owned by a company that owns a movie studio and it's library, which was the point I was making a few posts ago, that movie channels run by companies without studios or film libraries will have a problem in the future as film studios are cutting out the middle man.

We get miss up sometimes with merged names.

With Warner being at the end of Time Warner it look like Turner was took over Warner Bros.

And also the soon to be called ViacomCBS make it look like Viacom took over CBS.

[RegularCapital]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

That not right.

Warner Bros was took over by Turner in the late 1980s.

Turner is now own by AT&T.

All channels in UK are now run by Turner Broadcasting System Europe (WarnerMedia)

---------- Post added at 23:22 ---------- Previous post was at 22:11 ----------

It look like Star Wars is coming back to Sky Cinema from September 2nd on Virgin Channel 402 (Sky Cinema Select HD) [Source TiVo].

Turner merged with Time Warner in 1996, but remained as a separate subsidary to Warner Bros within in the Time Warner group.

When AT&T purchased TimeWarner it became WarnerMedia, at the moment and as announced this year, Turner is undergoing a separation and will be defunct very soon, with the kids channels and TCM under the control of Warner Bros and Turner's entertainment channels under WarnerMedia Entertainment (which includes HBO). CNN is now under WarnerMedia News and Sports.

The changes mean that TCM has unfettered access to Warner Bros. movie library with no transaction needed between the two subsidiaries, same for Cartoon Network and Boomerang, where Turner used to pay Warner Bros. for Warner Bros. Animation's/Hanna-Barbera's new and archived shows, but being sister subsidaries, Turner usually got the content at a special rate.

Also next month WarnerMedia Europe (ex-Turner) will be moving to their new HQ in London.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I'm having no second thoughts whatsoever , I've never denied some of the big media companies will take their content exclusively onto their own services I still don't believe they all will however.

Look at the HBO service that's due in the USA people are speculating a price of over $15 how many are seriously going to subscribe ?

That's only a couple of quid more than Netflix. Whether people wil pay that or not will be down to the quantity and quality of their content. In the end, people will subscribe to those streamers who best cater for their tastes.

For example, Disney + looks like being good for families, but people in my household (Old Boy and Old Girl) will not subscribe because there are no children living in our house any more. We would perhaps be interested in the Hulu strand if it comes to the UK, provided we could get that on a standalone basis and the content warranted it.

Those who are saying that the new arrangements will be more expensive are ignoring the fact that people will only subscribe to those services that they want at that time. People will also shift between services from time to time as they won't be tied to contracts.