The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM

Ramrod · 16-10-2022, 14:13

Interesting documentary.
Anyone else wached it yet?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20256556/

Jaymoss · 16-10-2022, 14:33

Floyd was a prime example of why you should just comply with the old bill. No matter what colour. He was a wife beating thieving slimebucket still do not wish him dead but he should have just complied.

jfman · 16-10-2022, 14:38

Police officers have no authority to execute someone for disobedience.

**Paul** · 16-10-2022, 16:19

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Police officers have no authority to execute someone for disobedience.

Nor did they, try not posting nonsense.

jfman · 16-10-2022, 16:36

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Nor did they, try not posting nonsense.

It was the underlying premise of the post above. Obey the police.. or else…

nomadking · 16-10-2022, 16:47

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It was the underlying premise of the post above. Obey the police.. or else…

He resisted getting out of his vehicle. He resisted getting into the police vehicle. He resisted staying in the vehicle by thrashing around, and with policy that is standard even in the UK, he was removed from the vehicle and restrained. He was under the influence of Fentanyl and Methamphetamine and was driving around.

mrmistoffelees · 16-10-2022, 16:50

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Floyd was a prime example of why you should just comply with the old bill. No matter what colour. He was a wife beating thieving slimebucket still do not wish him dead but he should have just complied.

Non compliance permits murder ?

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He resisted getting out of his vehicle. He resisted getting into the police vehicle. He resisted staying in the vehicle by thrashing around, and with policy that is standard even in the UK, he was removed from the vehicle and restrained. He was under the influence of Fentanyl and Methamphetamine and was driving around.

Was the restraint necessary for the period of time ? Officers have a duty of care to those detained. Where was the duty of care ?

peanut · 16-10-2022, 17:45

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Non compliance permits murder ?

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Was the restraint necessary for the period of time ? Officers have a duty of care to those detained. Where was the duty of care ?

Not sure why you're stating this. It's what happened afterwards which is the point here.

nomadking · 16-10-2022, 17:47

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Non compliance permits murder ?

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Was the restraint necessary for the period of time ? Officers have a duty of care to those detained. Where was the duty of care ?

There was NO deliberate act involved. Positional Asphyxia usually involves restrictions to the chest. He was still moving around and trying to resist being restrained. How were they expected to know when he had truly calmed down?
Plenty of cases around the WORLD, where somebody has died after having to be restrained. There was a case in the US where a guy who wasn't being violent or aggressive, other than perhaps verbally, died after being physically restrained by 2 security guards. As the guy was white and the guards weren't, no fuss or riots over it.

mrmistoffelees · 16-10-2022, 18:22

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There was NO deliberate act involved. Positional Asphyxia usually involves restrictions to the chest. He was still moving around and trying to resist being restrained. How were they expected to know when he had truly calmed down?
Plenty of cases around the WORLD, where somebody has died after having to be restrained. There was a case in the US where a guy who wasn't being violent or aggressive, other than perhaps verbally, died after being physically restrained by 2 security guards. As the guy was white and the guards weren't, no fuss or riots over it.

Unfortunately, but alas not surprisingly your views and your knowledge on the subject are detached from reality, officers are fully trained in restraint techniques and how to monitor and ensure the safety of those placed under restraint.

George was, in the eyes of the law a petty criminal he did not deserve to be murdered. He has become a focal point for the historic ill treatment, racism suffered by the black community in the US

I can give you first hand eye witness testimony of this happening when a colleague of mine having both been out for dinner and a few beers were walking back to a hotel in MSP (the hewing) was stopped and searched for 0 reason whatsoever

You want to start a thread about the mistreatment of whites by the police have at it.

Pierre · 16-10-2022, 19:35

This was all discussed two years ago in the George Floyd thread, and I’m not seeing anything new.

jfman · 16-10-2022, 19:41

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This was all discussed two years ago in the George Floyd thread, and I’m not seeing anything new.

Spot on.

Jaymoss · 16-10-2022, 19:49

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It was the underlying premise of the post above. Obey the police.. or else…

Yeah obey the Police and walk away Disobey the Police and in the US risk death or any degree lower but the same principle applies here. The more you piss off a cop the more likely they are to nick you for something. Appease them and just go home

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Non compliance permits murder ?

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Was the restraint necessary for the period of time ? Officers have a duty of care to those detained. Where was the duty of care ?

none compliance escalates. He only died cuz he fought the law and the law won

He was a known violent criminal they were protecting themselves

jfman · 16-10-2022, 22:09

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He only died cuz he fought the law and the law won

Does the law get a 22 year jail term for murder every time it wins?

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He was a known violent criminal they were protecting themselves

A defence not accepted by the court.

Jaymoss · 16-10-2022, 22:16

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Does the law get a 22 year jail term for murder every time it wins?

A defence not accepted by the court.

Show trial to appease the BLM movement. There is no question what the cop did was OTT but as said by many many times if Floyd capitulated then he would not have been killed.

These people of all colours that deliberately provoke the Police just do not seem to realise it would all go better for them if they just chilled out. I do not think I have ever seen a group of cops suddenly decide not to arrest someone because they are fighting back or making the arrest difficult they are going to get nicked anyway, why make it worse? just yes sir no sir home for supper