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Old 07-10-2019, 22:07   #16
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

Fair enough, it isn't abused for parking tickets.
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Old 07-10-2019, 23:34   #17
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

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The tariffs are aimed at the EU. Leave the EU and no tariffs.
In my great and unmatched wisdom, its end target is Airbus which has factories in the UK hence targetting the UK. If it wasn't against the UK, why the Scotch whisky tariffs?

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Old 08-10-2019, 00:05   #18
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

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It's against Airbus which has factories in the UK. If it wasn't against the UK, why the Scotch whisky tariffs.?
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The new duty is part of a raft of measures being imposed by the US in retaliation against EU subsidies given to aircraft maker Airbus.
It would seem we can't avoid it, as the dispute was against the EU and certain member countries.
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"The UK, through the EU, is seeking confirmation from the WTO that we have complied fully with WTO rulings regarding support to Airbus, and should not be subject to tariffs."

Seems unreasonable to expect a monopoly by Boeing to have existed instead.

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In fact, in looking at the effect of the EU subsidies, the original WTO panel that first heard the case and the Appellate Body agreed that “[w]ithout the subsidies, Airbus would not have existed … and there would be no Airbus aircraft on the market.
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

Nothing will come from this, sadly. Yanks simply do not respect the authority and laws of other countries especially whilst at home.
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

How about avoiding going off topic.
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

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As sad as this story is there would be no point in having diplomatic immunity if it was revoked as soon as there is an incident.
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It’s not an extradition request, she has immunity so any request would be pointless
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“Immunity”. The clue is in the answer, as distressing as it is.
Gueorgui Makharadze was Georgian deputy ambassador to America, he killed a girl in a drink driving crash in the mid nineties and some how had his immunity revoked and was tried and convicted of manslaughter so it's not pointless, even if they refuse to waive her immunity it's not pointless as the family can then sue the American government in a US court


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Nothing will come from this, sadly. Yanks simply do not respect the authority and laws of other countries especially whilst at home.
They don't usually but I get the feeling this isn't going away anytime soon and how hypocritical will it look in a US court when old Gueorgui is wheeled out and his story explained.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:22   #22
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They don't usually but I get the feeling this isn't going away anytime soon and how hypocritical will it look in a US court when old Gueorgui is wheeled out and his story explained.
The President has defended her so I don't think we're going to see the immunity revoked.
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

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The President has defended her so I don't think we're going to see the immunity revoked.
Just goes to show how we really rate with the US. They certainly won't be doing us any favours in a trade deal.
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

So what we can take from this is that certain individuals who are not actually diplomats and their families have a free pass to evade the justice system as and when it suits.

Cue open season for FOI requests because I suspect there's a certain amount of bravo sierra being drip fed to the media by Whitehall and this is not going to go away anytime soon.
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

Answer to future issues . .

All people in this country with Diplomatic Immunity must use taxis (or buses/trains) as a means of transport, and cannot drive any vehicle.

Nice little earner for cab firms, stops drinking & driving, reduces official paperwork.


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The President has defended her so I don't think we're going to see the immunity revoked.
10 months ago he was defending the Kurds and now look what's happening to them...
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

Well I guess the least we can do is ban her from coming back, expel her husband assuming he hasn't already written off coming back and have a review into which Americans can be future be given this diplomatic immunity.
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Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity

Immunity revoked: https://news.sky.com/story/diplomats...rents-11833917

Bit weird because we're saying 'it no longer applies' but she returned home and so the US don't need to give as a waiver. The US are also acknowledging she was lost it but haven't revoked it themselves.

So did we revoke it and the US are accepting that to avoid a bigger fight? Will they now extradite?
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