Football Season 2016/2017 - Page 20

iadom · 18-09-2016, 17:42

Abject is the only word to describe their performance, still think that was a clear foul on Martial before the first goal but 3-1 is a fair reflection overall.

How long have Sunderland been wearing been wearing this strip.

adzii_nufc · 18-09-2016, 17:47

Harry Kane scores but christ he's hesitant. Absolutely no desire to strike it first time with his left. Sunderland sinking. Pennies spent, players sold, the rug being pulled beneath them. Elis Short and co have some decent questions to answer.

denphone · 18-09-2016, 18:11

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Harry Kane scores but christ he's hesitant. Absolutely no desire to strike it first time with his left. Sunderland sinking. Pennies spent, players sold, the rug being pulled beneath them. Elis Short and co have some decent questions to answer.

Well Moyes did actually say they would be in a relegation battle as soon as he arrived so l think their struggles are a surprise to no one adzii.

adzii_nufc · 18-09-2016, 18:22

It's not so much the struggle, it's the complete lack of desire around the club. Everyone else are pulling out the cheque books and Sunderland are stuck fighting Relegation with loaned players and a relatively similar squad to last season, a season they almost went down.

Januzaj get's sent off. They're lucky to still have 10 following a blatant pull. Just like Newcastle last year, January will come far too late. Moyes will be sacked eventually as he always is now and Sunderland will slip into obscurity.

What's more dangerous for Sunderland is if they're spending nothing now, who's to say they'll suddenly spend to get out of the championship. Another Villa in the making.

Been a more one sided game with as little goals this season? 30 shots and 1 goal from Spurs. 13 corners.

iadom · 20-09-2016, 14:34

Jose

adzii_nufc · 21-09-2016, 22:10

Guess United are seeing City again sooner rather than later.

Surely we'll bypass Preston and be on to the last eight. RAFA!

Arthurgray50@blu · 21-09-2016, 23:07

I was under the impression that when PL clubs played in competitions. Under the rules THEY HAD TO PLAY THERE STRONGEST SIDE.

I was listening to the Spurs game. And most of the players l had never heard of.

Surely, this is breaking rules

Stephen · 22-09-2016, 00:02

They can play any players they want in the team.

Also just because you haven't heard of them doesn't mean they aren't a good player.

Julian · 22-09-2016, 00:06

lol

adzii_nufc · 22-09-2016, 00:55

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I was under the impression that when PL clubs played in competitions. Under the rules THEY HAD TO PLAY THERE STRONGEST SIDE.

I was listening to the Spurs game. And most of the players l had never heard of.

Surely, this is breaking rules

Typing in caps doesn't make your incorrect statement any more valid. Under what rules? Those rules were scrapped 5 years ago for the Premier League and have never officially existed for cup matches, Catch up.

Pretty hilarious that after a 5-0 win you're still finding a reason to appear here and moan. Guess we'll see you at the weekend for your anti Chelsea rant.

That aside, how does one expect youth to develop at top level if people have the opinion that cups should be the millionaires playing? I'll always remember fondly Tim Krul,current Ajax #1 got his first team football via the Uefa cup against Palermo some years back now as a kid, went on to get regular cup appearances and a run in the league which cemented him as Newcastles #1 Famous for funnily enough probably one of the greatest performances in a game by a keeper vs Spurs. Later being known as the guy subbed on for Holland a minute before penalties and going on to save two in the shootout, sending them through. Basically, from a few cup games to Ajax. That's the benefit of using cups against far weaker teams. Be fair.. It was Gillingham.

Arthurgray50@blu · 22-09-2016, 21:41

I believe that fielding an inexpericence team is demeaning the Cup Competition.

Yes, Spurs won 5 - 0 but there have been some games that l have gone to over the years, where, you go expecting the great players of the side. And it was the Reserves that played - and it wasn't a reserve game l went to.

adzii_nufc · 22-09-2016, 21:59

Then clubs should shoot out lower ticket prices. It's London so I understand your plight, probably still a rip off in a cup game.

My own club lower them to £15/£5 for both FA and league cup.

They were £10/£3 the other night.

I don't know what Spurs are so you'd have to chime in on that.

Stephen · 22-09-2016, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I believe that fielding an inexpericence team is demeaning the Cup Competition.

Yes, Spurs won 5 - 0 but there have been some games that l have gone to over the years, where, you go expecting the great players of the side. And it was the Reserves that played - and it wasn't a reserve game l went to.

Its not demeaning at all.

How else are young players meant to get experience?

When they play a team like that they don't need to put out their best players, it gives them a chance to rest and the younger less experianced players to get a game and build up their skills.

iadom · 22-09-2016, 22:23

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Then clubs should shoot out lower ticket prices. It's London so I understand your plight, probably still a rip off in a cup game.

My own club lower them to £15/£5 for both FA and league cup.

They were £10/£3 the other night.

I don't know what Spurs are so you'd have to chime in on that.

Same at Man United for EFL games, a decent price reduction on ticket prices.

adzii_nufc · 22-09-2016, 22:55

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Originally Posted by iadom

Same at Man United for EFL games, a decent price reduction on ticket prices.

As a kid I relied on cup games to see Newcastle play. I was too young to attend alone and the elders only had Wednesday nights off. They'd take a Tuesday off if they played that night (Weekends were off the cards as they ran a taxi firm) Money wasn't a huge factor but the generous ticket prices allowed us to attend pretty much every cup game at home per season, £15 for the Sunderland supporting grandfather and a fiver each for me and my brother. £25, you were laughing. That's 4 games for a hundred quid, in comparison, I paid £100 for two tickets upon Keegan's second coming at home to Bolton. £88 for two seats at home to City.

Even as I got old enough to go alone, he still attended, a die hard football lover that supported Sunderland but would go anywhere to watch the game played. That's the reason you'll never see me slag of Sunderland fans or the club.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/4349841.stm

£25 quid to watch Shearer score goals, worth every penny.

Attended the home tie against Sporting Lisbon just after that, Shearer scoring a retaken headed goal twice in a 1-0 win. (Scored once from a crossed free-kick that was disallowed and retaken, scored again, the madman)

Then crashed out to them in the second leg 4-1.

All in all though, Champions League nights will never change, I experienced them a few times but as you all know, it's not coming again anytime soon. Uefa cup nights though used to be just as amazing, but it's just vanished, a few seasons ago I went to all the home ties and it just doesn't feel the same, it feels how people describe the league cup. The straight knockout format was much better for me.