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Old 05-09-2019, 14:54   #1906
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They don't have to promise to revoke it at all.
I think they'll come under pressure from the Brexit Party to explicitly promise No Deal to avoid them running candidates against Tory MPs.

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A sure fire vote winner.
Not as sure fire a vote winner as Remain vs Leave would be for the Conservatives. No Deal polls lower than Brexit as a whole. I am not saying it's electoral poison for the Tories but Labour would much rather run against a Tory Party going for No Deal, alienating the type of Conservatives who rebelled on Tuesday, than one just promising Brexit against a 'Remain insurgency'.
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Old 05-09-2019, 14:59   #1907
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Old 05-09-2019, 15:05   #1908
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I think they'll come under pressure from the Brexit Party to explicitly promise No Deal to avoid them running candidates against Tory MPs.



Not as sure fire a vote winner as Remain vs Leave would be for the Conservatives. No Deal polls lower than Brexit as a whole. I am not saying it's electoral poison for the Tories but Labour would much rather run against a Tory Party going for No Deal, alienating the type of Conservatives who rebelled on Tuesday, than one just promising Brexit against a 'Remain insurgency'.
They could cut a deal without a manifesto pledge for it.
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Old 05-09-2019, 15:12   #1909
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They could cut a deal without a manifesto pledge for it.
Maybe but not sure what could be in it for them. They would want a concrete pledge since without it then Johnson, newly safe with a theoretical majority for five years, could ignore them.

Anyway this is just speculative but I think that is Labour's motivation to delay. Boris Johnson was clearly been gunning for this election so it makes sense their wary of it just yet.
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I think they'll come under pressure from the Brexit Party to explicitly promise No Deal to avoid them running candidates against Tory MPs.



Not as sure fire a vote winner as Remain vs Leave would be for the Conservatives. No Deal polls lower than Brexit as a whole. I am not saying it's electoral poison for the Tories but Labour would much rather run against a Tory Party going for No Deal, alienating the type of Conservatives who rebelled on Tuesday, than one just promising Brexit against a 'Remain insurgency'.
All the Tories need to do is to promise to Leave, on a given date regardless.

Deal or No Deal, and I think that would garner enough support.
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All the Tories need to do is to promise to Leave, on a given date regardless.

Deal or No Deal, and I think that would garner enough support.
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All the Tories need to do is to promise to Leave, on a given date regardless.

Deal or No Deal, and I think that would garner enough support.
your forgetting Nigel splitting the tory vote and forgetting how big a liar Johnson is
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your forgetting Nigel splitting the tory vote and forgetting how big a liar Johnson is
You're forgetting how they could both do a deal to ensure they get what they want
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You're forgetting how they could both do a deal to ensure they get what they want
Rather than splitting the vote and do a deal where Brexit party don't contest Tory safe seats and Tories let Brexit party take on Labour in vote leave areas or something along those lines.
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Rather than splitting the vote and do a deal where Brexit party don't contest Tory safe seats and Tories let Brexit party take on Labour in vote leave areas or something along those lines.
works for me
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You're forgetting how they could both do a deal to ensure they get what they want
your forgetting Nigel don't trust Boris and especially if election in November when we still in EU which is looking very likely

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your forgetting Nigel don't trust Boris and especially if election in November when we still in EU which is looking very likely
You are forgetting even the most unlikely can become allies for a common purpose.
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utter rubbish they not falling for the trap so Johnson can change date so get a no deal Brexit as he know parliament wont allow it Labour is doing exact right thing
Oh come of it, stop saying others spout rubbish, when this above from you is exactly this. For too long, Terrorist sympathy loving Corbyn (Do remember that!) has been banging on about wanting an election, an opportunity comes along, Labour bottle it - they are cowards because they know they would lose big time because the UK still wants to leave. This bollocks that people have changed their minds, no they have not.
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Looks like Labour is preparing for an election.
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Nearly 200,000 people have applied to register to vote in just 72 hours, and more than half of them are under 35.
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Oh come of it, stop saying others spout rubbish, when this above from you is exactly this. For too long, Terrorist sympathy loving Corbyn (Do remember that!) has been banging on about wanting an election, an opportunity comes along, Labour bottle it - they are cowards because they know they would lose big time because the UK still wants to leave. This bollocks that people have changed their minds, no they have not.
I have no time for Corbyn as you see I said earlier it is worse choice of leaders in history we have in election put it obvious it a trap even political editors like Theo Usherwood on LBC been speaking it most of day and a election would solve Brexit as other issues will come into play too if leave so certain they win why not have a another referendum and see then it settled once and for all or are leave cowards not wanting one and for who would win I don't know

and for the record don't want a second referendum but it better way to settle it rather than a election and choice should be remain and no deal think that is most fair way

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