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[MaverickJesus]

If I were BT I wouldn't sell BT Sports to VM (or anyone else) at all, for exactly the same reasons Sky won't wholesale Atlantic - when you make your profit from triple play bundles not the channel itself, wholesaling access to your biggest USP to a direct rival is counter productive. The only reason its available on Sky is because BT can buy the EPG access direct and cut out Sky entirely, and just use the fact that most people have Sky already as a convenient way to deliver it to people without decent broadband.

The only way I could see it appearing on other providers if it was a 1-year deal and at higher cost to the standard BT rate, to help build the brand recognition. But even then I'm not sure I'd take that deal, the value isn't there.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by MaverickJesus

If I were BT I wouldn't sell BT Sports to VM (or anyone else) at all, for exactly the same reasons Sky won't wholesale Atlantic - when you make your profit from triple play bundles not the channel itself, wholesaling access to your biggest USP to a direct rival is counter productive. The only reason its available on Sky is because BT can buy the EPG access direct and cut out Sky entirely, and just use the fact that most people have Sky already as a convenient way to deliver it to people without decent broadband.

The only way I could see it appearing on other providers if it was a 1-year deal and at higher cost to the standard BT rate, to help build the brand recognition. But even then I'm not sure I'd take that deal, the value isn't there.

That is my default view too

But waiting and seeing what will happen

[MaverickJesus]

Actually there is another possibility - if they get exceptionally poor subscriber numbers on the run up to the new Premiership season they might open it up to wholesale, but I haven't seen any figures released that indicate that either way. When is BTs next results release?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by johnasimmons

I got a feeling that a deal with BT Sport is going to be announced in late July

We would hope that would be the scenario.

[johnasimmons]

Originally Posted by Chad

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The time could come where this web-page (which was pulled after a day) comes true!

[colin25]

Originally Posted by johnasimmons

The time could come where this web-page (which was pulled after a day) comes true!

http://www.endofworld.net/

And this web page

[johnasimmons]

Originally Posted by colin25

http://www.endofworld.net/

And this web page

that was brilliant!

[DaMac]

Originally Posted by Sirius

So what would you all do if god forbid VM failed to get a deal with BT and they ended up not carrying the BT sports channel (i have no idea if they have or have not got a deal), would you leave VM and move to sky or BT ???

I have been thinking of changing to sky tv and BT fibre for a a while for a variety of reasons, VM not getting BT would be yet another reason.... But I could stay with my existing VM pack and upgrade my satellite dish, there are other ways of getting live HD premier league football on a Saturday, and one suspects that the BT matches will also be available from our European cousins.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by DaMac

I have been thinking of changing to sky tv and BT fibre for a a while for a variety of reasons, VM not getting BT would be yet another reason.... But I could stay with my existing VM pack and upgrade my satellite dish, there are other ways of getting live HD premier league football on a Saturday, and one suspects that the BT matches will also be available from our European cousins.

I was reading that BT etc will start to block these online football providers...now they have an interest

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Sirius

So what would you all do if god forbid VM failed to get a deal with BT and they ended up not carrying the BT sports channel (i have no idea if they have or have not got a deal), would you leave VM and move to sky or BT ???

no wouldn't leave to join sky

[DaMac]

Originally Posted by colin25

I was reading that BT etc will start to block these online football providers...now they have an interest

Who said anything about online providers? The clue was updating the satellite dish. Sky was recently thwarted by a Portsmouth landlady who chooses to get her live premier league footage from Greece. There are options out there.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by DaMac

Who said anything about online providers? The clue was updating the satellite dish. Sky was recently thwarted by a Portsmouth landlady who chooses to get her live premier league footage from Greece. There are options out there.

Ahh, sorry..didn't read that right

And yes, i remember that case

[DaMac]

...as to blocking streaming access, so they should, it is terrible quality if nothing else.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

There must be lots of members that cannot get Sky ie the dish, so therefore have to depend on other sources ie BT or VM.

The only company being a pain in the rear is VM. They should be a provider of all channels that Sky have.

But then VM dont give a monkeys for it customer - we have seen that over the years. Customers are after certain channels, but don't get them. Irs always the same - we are in talks, same old crap.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

There must be lots of members that cannot get Sky ie the dish, so therefore have to depend on other sources ie BT or VM.

The only company being a pain in the rear is VM. They should be a provider of all channels that Sky have.

But then VM dont give a monkeys for it customer - we have seen that over the years. Customers are after certain channels, but don't get them. Irs always the same - we are in talks, same old crap.

Arthur sorry to upset you but you have no idea what you are talking about with regards to your comments about VM.