Home News Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | UK Intelligence report in to Russian interference in UK Elections/Scottish Referendum

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > General Discussion > Current Affairs

UK Intelligence report in to Russian interference in UK Elections/Scottish Referendum
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 21-07-2020, 16:27   #61
Carth
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: At the Leaving door
Posts: 4,050
Carth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze array
Carth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze array
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf View Post
Your not suggesting some will try and fabricate evidence are you

Any hoo we now have the clear evidence that the brexit vote was as i expected totally legitimate.
but . . . but . . there's no evidence that there isn't any evidence, which proves the point that there might be evidence we've got no evidence of . . . evidently
Carth is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 21-07-2020, 16:30   #62
papa smurf
vox populi vox dei
 
papa smurf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: the last resort
Services: every thing
Posts: 13,739
papa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny stars
papa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny starspapa smurf has a pair of shiny stars
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth View Post
but . . . but . . there's no evidence that there isn't any evidence, which proves the point that there might be evidence we've got no evidence of . . . evidently
you sound like keir starmer
__________________
To be or not to be, woke is the question Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer. The slings and arrows of outrageous wokedome, Or to take arms against a sea of wokies. And by opposing end them.
papa smurf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 16:47   #63
Mick
Cable Forum Team
 
Mick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,115
Mick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny star
Mick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny star
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

I have evidence of foreign interference in our 2016 Brexit referendum and it seemed to be perfectly fine when it suited the Remainers, former U.S President Barack Obama threatening back of queue on a leave result. If that wasn't foreign interference in plain sight then the Russians just didn't get their foot in the door fast enough.
Mick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 16:53   #64
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,187
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf View Post
No evidence eh,well that's that then.

---------- Post added at 15:13 ---------- Previous post was at 15:10 ----------

Nigel Farage demands serious apologies from arch Remainers as he waves Russia report

The Brexiteer hit out after a long-awaited probe into alleged Russian interference in British democracy said it would be "difficult - if not impossible" to assess whether any such attempts had been successful. Mr Farage tweeted: “So, no evidence of Russian interference in the referendum. Some serious apologies are due.https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...ferendum-putin
No, per the article, we never asked the question. Perhaps we followed the mantra "Don't ask questions you don't like the answer to!"
1andrew1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 16:54   #65
Carth
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: At the Leaving door
Posts: 4,050
Carth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze array
Carth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze arrayCarth has a bronze array
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
No, per the article, we never asked the question. Perhaps we followed the mantra "Don't ask questions you don't like the answer to!"
we could use some of that on here
Carth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 17:29   #66
nomadking
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 350Mb, V6 STB
Posts: 7,861
nomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze array
nomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze array
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

So where is the evidence that anybody did anything untoward? If somebody claims X committed a burglary, it doesn't seem too much to ask the what, when, and where in connection with it. There isn't even a "somebody did X", it's a "Russia did something, we don't know what, but they must have". We can't be expected to agree or disagree with something, when it's not possible to be told what that something is meant to be. How can we judge any supposed effect and influence of a non-specified action.
What exactly was meant to be investigated? Was there a specific thing to be investigated? If you had been asked to investigate, where would you start? There's not even an "X happened, who was responsible". There is no "X" identified.

Last edited by nomadking; 21-07-2020 at 17:43.
nomadking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 17:29   #67
jonbxx
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: #Plagueisland
Age: 53
Services: VM VIP Pack
Posts: 1,664
jonbxx has a bronzed appealjonbxx has a bronzed appeal
jonbxx has a bronzed appealjonbxx has a bronzed appealjonbxx has a bronzed appealjonbxx has a bronzed appealjonbxx has a bronzed appealjonbxx has a bronzed appealjonbxx has a bronzed appeal
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
No, per the article, we never asked the question. Perhaps we followed the mantra "Don't ask questions you don't like the answer to!"
That could be unfair to the Government as it suggests a malign intent. Negligence and/or incompetence should be considered too
jonbxx is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 17:49   #68
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,187
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jonbxx View Post
That could be unfair to the Government as it suggests a malign intent. Negligence and/or incompetence should be considered too
Fair shout.
1andrew1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 17:56   #69
Kushan
FORMER Virgin Media Staff
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,737
Kushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appeal
Kushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appeal
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Again, nobody wants to ask why the government "didn't ask" about Brexit referendum interference when it asked about interference in other referendums.

If the government had asked and no evidence was found, that'd be great - we could put the debate to bed right now, but by not asking the question they've left it open for debate much longer. Even if you're a staunch leaver and 100% believe there to be zero interference, you should still be pissed off at the government cocking up here as it means us remoaners are still going to go on about it.

It could have ended, but it didn't. Now you just have to ask why.
Kushan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 18:04   #70
nomadking
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 350Mb, V6 STB
Posts: 7,861
nomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze array
nomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze array
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushan View Post
Again, nobody wants to ask why the government "didn't ask" about Brexit referendum interference when it asked about interference in other referendums.

If the government had asked and no evidence was found, that'd be great - we could put the debate to bed right now, but by not asking the question they've left it open for debate much longer. Even if you're a staunch leaver and 100% believe there to be zero interference, you should still be pissed off at the government cocking up here as it means us remoaners are still going to go on about it.

It could have ended, but it didn't. Now you just have to ask why.
That wouldn't have stopped the Remain side, Nothing but total overturning of the democratic decision would do that.


At least with the usual conspiracy theories(eg 5G and Covid), there is a chance to disprove or prove it. Until somebody can actually come up with the "X" in "X happened, who was responsible", there is nothing that could be proven or disproven. Has anybody come up with an "X" of any substance and effect?
nomadking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 18:22   #71
Kushan
FORMER Virgin Media Staff
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,737
Kushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appeal
Kushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appealKushan has a bronzed appeal
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
Has anybody come up with an "X" of any substance and effect?
We could ask our intelligence agencies if Russia interfered. Crazy thought, I know.
Kushan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 18:35   #72
Maggy
The Invisible Woman
Cable Forum Team
 
Maggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: between Portsmouth and Southampton.
Age: 71
Services: VM XL TV,50 MB VM BB,VM landline, Tivo
Posts: 40,159
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

So is the thread title correct? Was/is Labour complicit with Russian interference in the 2019 UK General Election?
__________________
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. Shakespeare..
Maggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 18:36   #73
Mick
Cable Forum Team
 
Mick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,115
Mick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny star
Mick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny star
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushan View Post
We could ask our intelligence agencies if Russia interfered. Crazy thought, I know.
And yet you have no issue with Obama helping your side with his threat, I will give you a clue, that was Foreign interference too!!!

There should have been no foreign interference by any country allied or not, yet your side wheeled him out and he stood there with his stupid threat, how many people did he influence to vote Remain???

It should never have been allowed, yet it was totally fine with your side.

Total hypocrites.

---------- Post added at 17:36 ---------- Previous post was at 17:35 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy View Post
So is the thread title correct? Was/is Labour complicit with Russian interference in the 2019 UK General Election?
Changed.
Mick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 18:45   #74
nomadking
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 350Mb, V6 STB
Posts: 7,861
nomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze array
nomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze array
Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushan View Post
We could ask our intelligence agencies if Russia interfered. Crazy thought, I know.
What exactly is meant to have taken place? What unexplained things are meant to have been that noticeable? It's a case of "the bogeyman done it", "done what", "erm don't know, he just did". There is zero evidence of anything having taken place, so getting into who was responsible, is more than a little bit premature.
nomadking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-07-2020, 19:26   #75
pip08456
Sad Doig Fan!
 
pip08456's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Barry South Wales
Age: 67
Services: With VM for BB 250Mb service.(Deal)
Posts: 11,646
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
pip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny starpip08456 has a nice shiny star
Re: UK Intelligence report in to Russian interference in UK Elections/Scottish Refere

BREAKING NEWS!

"This is staggering – the UK didn't know that Russia was going to invade Scotland because it never sought to ask!

We now know why.

They had never specifically instructed MI5, MI6 and GCHQ - the intelligence and security agencies tasked with protecting the UK - with looking at precisely this issue."
pip08456 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 17:15.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.